You're welcome & yes, as far as I know. I've been guiding for 8 years.
From an email from Ilona
Nothing dramatic happened.
There were no fireworks.
No permanent bliss states.
No sudden personality changes.
And yet, something shifted.
Here are a few things people said afterwards:
“I’m not fighting my experience anymore. There’s more space around everything.”
“I expected something big to happen. Instead, life feels simpler and I trust myself more.”
“There’s less urgency. The seeking has softened.”
This is the kind of shift this work supports.
Ilona Cuinate
Loving,
jacki
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~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Good.
Can you say 100% that there is no separate "self?" If not. let me know when you can.
Loving
Can you say 100% that there is no separate "self?" If not. let me know when you can.
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Hello,
This is the only pointer Ilona gave me when I was guided here. i practiced this for about 3 months. I call it:
ButtChair
Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.
Then write what is true.
Loving,
This is the only pointer Ilona gave me when I was guided here. i practiced this for about 3 months. I call it:
ButtChair
Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.
Then write what is true.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Great. I know it can feel boring.
I do have some other pointers in my Dropbox that I will share with you but mostly focus on ButtChair.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ksba3zhi9uuz ... k1a?dl=0
There is no magic pointer that will push you over the edge. All it takes is a few seconds of clear looking. That is why this one is so powerful.
Loving
I do have some other pointers in my Dropbox that I will share with you but mostly focus on ButtChair.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ksba3zhi9uuz ... k1a?dl=0
There is no magic pointer that will push you over the edge. All it takes is a few seconds of clear looking. That is why this one is so powerful.
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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It's hard to LOOK, it's easy to feel the sensation. Is this what makes it powerful? The mind goes very quiet when trying to LOOK.Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
Thank you for sharing your Dropbox.
Love,
Jacki
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I don't know. I just know it works.
Loving
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Yes, I attended the recorded workshop you hear in my Dropbox. That's me laughing on Zooming into Death. By the end of the weekend, I was high as a kite. This was April 2007. LU was December 2017.
Not everyone experiences the extremes I did. It seems that most don't.
Yours will be unique to you.
I've had that blissed out experience in sex, breathwork, nature, and probably other scenarios I'm forgetting. Mostly (maybe always), it is whenever a truth dawns on me, such as there being no separate self.
Anytime there is believing untruthful thoughts, aka lies. it diminishes. I do not live like that all the time. Those are "honemoon periods." It fades.
The Truth/Lie pointer is important so you recognize these shifts.
What remains is inner peace.
I also did about a decade of The Work of Byron Katie with that same teacher. www.thework.com. Look for "Do the Work."
We are looking for that shift in perception, subtle or not.
Every pointer *can* show you a truth that will open you to no self. You only need one. It takes seconds. And it is unpredictable.
Loving,
Not everyone experiences the extremes I did. It seems that most don't.
Yours will be unique to you.
I've had that blissed out experience in sex, breathwork, nature, and probably other scenarios I'm forgetting. Mostly (maybe always), it is whenever a truth dawns on me, such as there being no separate self.
Anytime there is believing untruthful thoughts, aka lies. it diminishes. I do not live like that all the time. Those are "honemoon periods." It fades.
The Truth/Lie pointer is important so you recognize these shifts.
What remains is inner peace.
I also did about a decade of The Work of Byron Katie with that same teacher. www.thework.com. Look for "Do the Work."
We are looking for that shift in perception, subtle or not.
Every pointer *can* show you a truth that will open you to no self. You only need one. It takes seconds. And it is unpredictable.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Hi Stacy,
How are you doing today?
How do you navigate a world with unawakened humans? I don't know anyone in my life who is awake. How did you deal with that especially during those honeymoon periods? Do you know many awake people?
I've noticed that I can't find a thinker anymore, only thoughts, but there is still a "me." It's kind of strange. For a while I was inquiring and noticing that the thinker and the thoughts arose together. Now only the thoughts remain.
Love,
Jacki
How are you doing today?
How do you navigate a world with unawakened humans? I don't know anyone in my life who is awake. How did you deal with that especially during those honeymoon periods? Do you know many awake people?
I've noticed that I can't find a thinker anymore, only thoughts, but there is still a "me." It's kind of strange. For a while I was inquiring and noticing that the thinker and the thoughts arose together. Now only the thoughts remain.
Love,
Jacki
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Oh, it just takes compassion. People take everything do seriously especially their illusionary "selves."
There's no "self." You're making it up.
What are you calling a "self?"
Loving
There's no "self." You're making it up.
What are you calling a "self?"
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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I've been making it up for 63 years!There's no "self." You're making it up.
What are you calling a "self?"
When I inquire I can't find evidence for a self. Thought, habit, conditioning and memory are holding something together that feels like a self, or I would call a self.
I feel lighter, but there is still an "I", although it's softening. There still seems to be a center. I feel separate from others. I still feel like I'm experiencing reality through a veil of thoughts. It's dualistic, even though thoughts are loosening their grip. I'm not grabbing and following thoughts as much.
There's been no shift in identity.
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