Interesting how after totally failing to get a straight answer here, i received advertising from Illona, offering to fix me, for money. Not impressed.

Again, i'm currently working on fetters 6, 7 and 8.

If this website is Only about the first fetter, we're done.
if not, maybe not.

But TBH, i'm ...

but I am not interested in playing word games with you. Then why did you?

If you cannot understand the simple words that seeing through the illusory self is a beginning and not an ending,
And today is the first day of the rest of my life.

But in a more meaningful context, it is the last day of ...

Cool. Thanks for the as-close-as-we've-had-so-far direct answer.
So i think we are done.


Critique: i will point out that the 'yes and no' thing is not only lacking in clarity, but annoying.

Example: Q: I'm asking you if seeing through the illusion of self is the first step or the last.
A: Seeing ...

"Actually I did answer it." You responded. You didn't answer.

I'm asking you if seeing through the illusion of self is the first step or the last.
IF it's the last step, i'm done, g'bye.

If there are more steps, i'm asking you what they are.

Answer the question in a straightforward way, relevant to this website, and non-duality, please.

Are there more steps to learn, in a non-dual context, here at this website, beyond the basic step of 'the self is an illusion.' ?

And no, i don't mean 'we all learn something from each other.'
Because ...

Precisely why I’m asking what is wrong with right now. Nothing.
Why must something be wrong for me to ask if there's anything else?
And you didn't answer the question. IS there anything else?

And who or what is wanting either positive or negative experiences?[/quote" whatever you want to call ...

"Ok so here we deal with direct experience. Can you experience something you dont experience? "
I was talking about other people.
All their experiences did, was prompt me to look.

"And if you read about what else there is that doesn’t appear to be happening to you, how does that make you feel ...

"About what? What we do? Or .....?" No. Just simple curiosity.

"Like what? What else do you think there is? Are you basing this on anything?" Like what? Don't know. Asking based on other people's experiences. Many people think there are further things to learn, further steps. If there are not, then ...

"What brought you here?" Curiosity.

"What are you looking for?" further discoveries beyond the illusion of self.

"What is not happening that you believe, think should be?" In terms of conversation with Sandra: direction.
If that's not what you mean, then i will need more details to answer.

"What ...

Why am i here? I was hoping you had something useful to say.

Not really seeing it.
I am getting the strongest point that your contribution could be replaced by a chat-bot loaded with deepities.

Bye.

Also, i get to say "I am the Storm." In a meaningful conversation :P

"Really? Could you explain this to me, I really don't know what you are talking about?"
The sun shines on us all. Gravity affects us all. And the rain.
And yet, the rain makes me happy, and another sad.
Why?
What is in our subconscious.

"Whole suggests a container. why can't you be transitory? Why ...

"Really? What about the sun , air, gravity, to name a few of the infinite variables that influence experience?"

Sure. But their specific influences on me are controlled by whatever goes on in my subconscious.

"If there is no distinct self, which you did agree on, who is deciding something, or is ...

To be a chooser , suggests a separate entity. Look , Nothing is separate. No choice. What does that mean to you?


It sounds awfully like woowoo.

Please clarify your terms.
Nothing is separate? from what? I am very definitely separate from you on a stack of different levels.

Separate entity ...

Then we're done.
Because i came into this knowing that already.
I was hoping for more.

"Basically what this inquiry is about is realising that there is no separate self." Separate from what?

"Are you saying that there is a separate subconscious being deciding things. " ditto. separate from what ...