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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:23 am

still at it.
watching 3)4)5)
looking for absolute certainty before the answer
love
damon

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Re: guide needed

Postby Nettie » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:29 am

Notice that the feeling of certainly arises just as spontaneously as uncertainty...
And if you were the chooser you would choose to only have certainty.
Love,
Nettie

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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:34 pm

Like an old horse .as i heard it said that the feeling of the spur has to go down all the way to the bone before it gets the message to move. Sorry its taking so much time nettie

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Re: guide needed

Postby Nettie » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:07 pm

Dear Damon,
Would you like to go continue?
Love,
Nettie

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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:12 am

it cant be stopped, constantly trying and
most of the day its a thought and looking
remembering a key point so like a coat i can try on again and again,
to see really and truely that is it.
that its true,
that its all happening automatically
and that there is no see-er just an implied see-er
its very exciting
and i never can stop and there is wanting to stay connected
love damon
and

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Re: guide needed

Postby Nettie » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:26 am

Dear Damon,
"it cant be stopped, constantly trying and
most of the day its a thought and looking
remembering a key point so like a coat i can try on again and again,
to see really and truely that is it.
that its true,
that its all happening automatically
and that there is no see-er just an implied see-er
its very exciting
and i never can stop and there is wanting to stay connected"
Cool!
Yes wanting to stay connected ...or not...both happen equally and evenly ....utterly spontaneously....without a separate self doing a thing!

Here's a couple of short videos I made....

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 5309407934


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... ef=m_notif

Much love,
Nettie

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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:25 am

the video links Nettie arent working, id love to see them.
love damon.
i enjoyed the body walking today in a coffee shop where there is alot of eyes.
at first there was the usual concern for walking so i could be cool looking,
then letting go of concern and just didnt interfer with the body and watched
the arms swing .
there is that arising of a self concern of concern for an imaginary self feeling.

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Re: guide needed

Postby Nettie » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:32 am

Dear Damon,
I guess you'd have to friend me to see my videos. Wind Dancer in a yellow shirt.
"i enjoyed the body walking today in a coffee shop where there is alot of eyes.
at first there was the usual concern for walking so i could be cool looking,
then letting go of concern and just didnt interfer with the body and watched
the arms swing .
there is that arising of a self concern of concern for an imaginary self feeling."

Can you see that there is no you who can control if these thoughts occur? Thoughts of self...thoughts of no self....both arise evenly and equally....utterly spontaneously without any effort.
The story of you doesn't go away...
It is merely seen as a mental fabrication....

We realize that what the self is ....a beautiful flowing of opinions beliefs....desire....and nothing substantial at all.....yet it fits like an old comfortable shoe....we need it to walk.....

It is like blowing as the wind and the wind blowing through you at the same time. The shared learned net of description thrown over reality which is not capturable with words thoughts ideas concepts....is seen for what it is.

And there simply no separate self to hurry this falling away of beliefs of who you are...the self is like a tapestry of beliefs glued together with hope and fear. And the threads untie themselves when the illusion of separation is seen through.


Love,
Nettie

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Re: guide needed

Postby Nettie » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:34 am

Part two.
....and we sail over uncharted seas of clouding ....our plane flies into the sunset....reds and oranges reflecting on this silver birds wings....
....and no matter how fast the jet flies it will never reach the horizon....
....and there is no key to unlock the wonder of the universe ....it is always on....
................yet trying to grasp the gold ring ensures that it will never be captured......

....as life....

....................as it is..............,,

....whatever it looks like...

............whatever it feels like.........

...is simply this....

Always!

....THERE IS NO SPECIAL WAY TO BE!!!!.....

There are no right thoughts to have...

....no right or wrong emotions to have....
.....,,........,,.....it all occurs utterly spontaneously.....as it does...
And no separate you to change or rearrange it or fix it or make it better.
Ever
Ever
Ever
Ever.

.....how cool is that?

Life happens so wondrously ....unbidden
...uncaused...
....uncapturable.................

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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:27 pm

Dear nettie please forgive me for not writing sooner. There are findings from your directions through dwelling and steeping like a tea bag dropped into clear water slowly revealing . Seemingly doing the seaching. Then perplexed how strongly sensed the me is. On one level thinking to myself that this isnt real outside of mind thinking

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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:42 pm

I may not be very facebook savy. I cant seem to find you there under wind dancer. Maybe you could send a friend request to damon jones in tsawwasen bc canada ? Near vancouver any way or surrey bc love damon ps your poetry is really great

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Re: guide needed

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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:46 pm

i just emailed you.
i wish i had more to say nettie
as i lie in bed in that place where eyes are closed looking at
all the arisings and disappearings , the thought that iam watching these things
is there still and also the thought that the feeling of an i watching is also a though of course ( though a most obscurring one at that)
and then there is an attept to see it as you say that its arising and falling to no one including the rising and falling of the sence that iam watching.
thought keeps attempting at an identity and then just sitting there not going anywhere and at a dead end.
there was a noticable loosening of ownership though since ive been talking with you.
something seems to be at work
love damon

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Re: guide needed

Postby Nettie » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:08 am

Dear Damon,
"i wish i had more to say nettie
as i lie in bed in that place where eyes are closed looking at
all the arisings and disappearings , the thought that iam watching these things"
And that thought happens utterly spontaneously ...yes? You are not the chooser of thought?

@is there still and also the thought that the feeling of an i watching is also a though of course ( though a most obscurring one at that)
and then there is an attept to see it as you say that its arising and falling to no one including the rising and falling of the sence that iam watching.
thought keeps attempting at an identity and then just sitting there not going anywhere and at a dead end.
there was a noticable loosening of ownership though since ive been talking with you.
something seems to be at work "
Can you choose what emotions to have?
Or with whom you fall in love?

Love,
Nettie

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Re: guide needed

Postby damon123jones » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:37 pm

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Re: guide needed
Postby damon123jones » March 13th, 2014, 9:23 pm
still at it.
watching 3)4)5)
looking for absolute certainty before the answer
love
damon
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Re: guide needed
Postby Nettie » March 14th, 2014, 2:29 am
Notice that the feeling of certainly arises just as spontaneously as uncertainty...
And if you were the chooser you would choose to only have certainty.
Love,
Nettie
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Re: guide needed
Postby damon123jones » March 21st, 2014, 6:34 am
Like an old horse .as i heard it said that the feeling of the spur has to go down all the way to the bone before it gets the message to move. Sorry its taking so much time nettie
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Re: guide needed
Postby Nettie » March 22nd, 2014, 3:07 am
Dear Damon,
Would you like to go continue?
Love,
Nettie
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Re: guide needed
Postby damon123jones » March 22nd, 2014, 11:12 pm
it cant be stopped, constantly trying and
most of the day its a thought and looking
remembering a key point so like a coat i can try on again and again,
to see really and truely that is it.
that its true,
that its all happening automatically
and that there is no see-er just an implied see-er
its very exciting
and i never can stop and there is wanting to stay connected
love damon
and
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Re: guide needed
Postby Nettie » March 25th, 2014, 12:26 am
Dear Damon,
"it cant be stopped, constantly trying and
most of the day its a thought and looking
remembering a key point so like a coat i can try on again and again,
to see really and truely that is it.
that its true,
that its all happening automatically
and that there is no see-er just an implied see-er
its very exciting
and i never can stop and there is wanting to stay connected"
Cool!
Yes wanting to stay connected ...or not...both happen equally and evenly ....utterly spontaneously....without a separate self doing a thing!

Here's a couple of short videos I made....

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 5309407934


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 5309407934¬if_t=group_comment_reply&ref=m_notif

Much love,
Nettie
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Re: guide needed
Postby damon123jones » March 25th, 2014, 10:25 pm
the video links Nettie arent working, id love to see them.
love damon.
i enjoyed the body walking today in a coffee shop where there is alot of eyes.
at first there was the usual concern for walking so i could be cool looking,
then letting go of concern and just didnt interfer with the body and watched
the arms swing .
there is that arising of a self concern of concern for an imaginary self feeling.
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Re: guide needed
Postby Nettie » March 26th, 2014, 8:32 pm
Dear Damon,
I guess you'd have to friend me to see my videos. Wind Dancer in a yellow shirt.
"i enjoyed the body walking today in a coffee shop where there is alot of eyes.
at first there was the usual concern for walking so i could be cool looking,
then letting go of concern and just didnt interfer with the body and watched
the arms swing .
there is that arising of a self concern of concern for an imaginary self feeling."

Can you see that there is no you who can control if these thoughts occur? Thoughts of self...thoughts of no self....both arise evenly and equally....utterly spontaneously without any effort.
The story of you doesn't go away...
It is merely seen as a mental fabrication....

We realize that what the self is ....a beautiful flowing of opinions beliefs....desire....and nothing substantial at all.....yet it fits like an old comfortable shoe....we need it to walk.....

It is like blowing as the wind and the wind blowing through you at the same time. The shared learned net of description thrown over reality which is not capturable with words thoughts ideas concepts....is seen for what it is.

And there simply no separate self to hurry this falling away of beliefs of who you are...the self is like a tapestry of beliefs glued together with hope and fear. And the threads untie themselves when the illusion of separation is seen through.


Love,
Nettie
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Re: guide needed
Postby Nettie » March 26th, 2014, 8:34 pm
Part two.
....and we sail over uncharted seas of clouding ....our plane flies into the sunset....reds and oranges reflecting on this silver birds wings....
....and no matter how fast the jet flies it will never reach the horizon....
....and there is no key to unlock the wonder of the universe ....it is always on....
................yet trying to grasp the gold ring ensures that it will never be captured......

....as life....

....................as it is..............,,

....whatever it looks like...

............whatever it feels like.........

...is simply this....

Always!

....THERE IS NO SPECIAL WAY TO BE!!!!.....

There are no right thoughts to have...

....no right or wrong emotions to have....
.....,,........,,.....it all occurs utterly spontaneously.....as it does...
And no separate you to change or rearrange it or fix it or make it better.
Ever
Ever
Ever
Ever.

.....how cool is that?

Life happens so wondrously ....unbidden
...uncaused...
....uncapturable.................
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Re: guide needed
Postby damon123jones » April 4th, 2014, 12:27 pm
Dear nettie please forgive me for not writing sooner. There are findings from your directions through dwelling and steeping like a tea bag dropped into clear water slowly revealing . Seemingly doing the seaching. Then perplexed how strongly sensed the me is. On one level thinking to myself that this isnt real outside of mind thinking
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Re: guide needed
Postby damon123jones » April 4th, 2014, 12:42 pm
I may not be very facebook savy. I cant seem to find you there under wind dancer. Maybe you could send a friend request to damon jones in tsawwasen bc canada ? Near vancouver any way or surrey bc love damon ps your poetry is really great
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Re: guide needed
Postby Nettie » April 8th, 2014, 2:30 am
You can email me
electric.cockroach@yahoo.com
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Re: guide needed
Postby damon123jones » April 8th, 2014, 1:46 pm
i just emailed you.
i wish i had more to say nettie
as i lie in bed in that place where eyes are closed looking at
all the arisings and disappearings , the thought that iam watching these things
is there still and also the thought that the feeling of an i watching is also a though of course ( though a most obscurring one at that)
and then there is an attept to see it as you say that its arising and falling to no one including the rising and falling of the sence that iam watching.
thought keeps attempting at an identity and then just sitting there not going anywhere and at a dead end.
there was a noticable loosening of ownership though since ive been talking with you.
something seems to be at work
love damon
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Re: guide needed
Unread postby Nettie » April 9th, 2014, 3:08 pm
Dear Damon,
"i wish i had more to say nettie
as i lie in bed in that place where eyes are closed looking at
all the arisings and disappearings , the thought that iam watching these things"
And that thought happens utterly spontaneously ...yes? You are not the chooser of thought?

@is there still and also the thought that the feeling of an i watching is also a though of course ( though a most obscurring one at that)
and then there is an attept to see it as you say that its arising and falling to no one including the rising and falling of the sence that iam watching.
thought keeps attempting at an identity and then just sitting there not going anywhere and at a dead end.
there was a noticable loosening of ownership though since ive been talking with you.
something seems to be at work "
Can you choose what emotions to have?
Or with whom you fall in love?

No there is no choice in emotions
No choice as to what is loved
There are times when its felt tha iam actively thinking
While other times when it is seen that thought come
Of their own from seeming nowhere
Its seen that there are sensations and a story that was unwanted before.are less scary. But to whom?


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