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Re: What is real?

Postby LillaLilla » Tue Aug 25, 2026 7:19 am

Hi Rali :)
What is “taken as reality” in direct experience?
Just what appears. Sensations, seeing, hearing, smelling, touching and thinking.
Is there someone taking thought as reality?
No. All appears by itself.
Is there an act of taking?
No.
A taker?
There isn't.
When a thought feels real, is a real-maker found?
No.
When sensation feels personal, is an owner found?
No.
Or is “believed,” “real,” and “personal” another layer of thought-description?
Yes, exactly.
Now take one sticky thought
What makes it feel real? Sensation? Familiarity? Certainty? Repetition? Emotional charge? A mental image?
I looked at "this isn't working for me". There was an immediate body-map tension and a familiar sensation. Where was also a sense of certainty, but I think certainty also comes from thought being followed by familiar body-map sensations. 
What is “familiarity” in direct experience?
Thought is followed by a sensation. Then thought says this has happened before, this is familiar.
What is “certainty” in direct experience? Is it anything more than sensation, strong thought, emotional charge (stronger sensation), and a thought saying “this is true”?
That's all.
The key cut is: Does any of that prove an “I”?
No :)
Does familiarity prove a self?
No.
Does certainty prove truth?
No.
Just check… When thought feels real, is the one it refers to found?
There isn't.
Thank you.
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Re: What is real?

Postby poppyseed » Tue Aug 25, 2026 1:36 pm

Hi Lilla

Beautiful!!
So let's review where we are at with the following questions.
What has changed and what hasn’t in normal everyday living?
What is the biggest difference from before starting this conversation?
Has anything been gained? Has anything been lost?
Is seeking still going on? If so, what exactly is still being sought (and by whom)?
Is there any confusion at all or anything you would like to address?
Is there any expectation of a special experience? A final shift? Certainty? Bliss? No more thoughts? No more emotional ups and downs? Permanent peace?
Can you say with a big fat YES, it is clear what the illusion of a separate self is?


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Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. ~Alan Alda
The mind that aims to understand reality can consider itself satisfied only by reducing it to terms of thought. ~ Albert Camus

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Re: What is real?

Postby LillaLilla » Thu Aug 27, 2026 9:32 am

Hi Rali :)

I found it very useful to reflect on the inquiry journey.
What has changed and what hasn’t in normal everyday living?
Thoughts are less believable. The sense of self is still there, but it feels less believable. I often stop and focus on the DE of the moment. There is often a pause in thinking, and a sense of surprise appears, that I didn't know this thought would appear.
Has anything been gained? Has anything been lost?
These two questions are essentially one for me.
I understood (or discovered) that self is merely thought, followed by familiar sensation. Thoughts have less certainty since this realisation. I have more trust in the flow of life, in how things unfold.
Is seeking still going on?
When anger arises and the story appears about an unfavoured life situation I'm in, I try to fix the external. There is seeking to get out of an unfavoured life situation and unfavoured connections.

There is also some seeking in regards to seeing through self. I feel that I had a spark at one point of our inquiry dialogues, and the questions went deep, but some painful life happenings diverted my attention. Since then I haven't been able to ignite the spark inside to burn down the illusion. I feel that I would need to spend more time with the inquiries and spend more time sitting with DE.
If so, what exactly is still being sought (and by whom)?
For thoughts and feelings to feel less believable. By nobody.
Is there any confusion at all or anything you would like to address?
No, there isn't.
Is there any expectation of a special experience?
There is an expectation, that there will be more distance from thoughts and feelings.
Can you say with a big fat YES, it is clear what the illusion of a separate self is?
If I'm honest with myself, I must say no. Thought says I need to work on it.

Thank you!
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Re: What is real?

Postby poppyseed » Thu Aug 27, 2026 10:41 am

Hi Lilla
Beautiful honesty. This is exactly where to look now.
The sense of self is still there, but it feels less believable.
Good. Don’t try to get rid of the sense of self.
What is the “sense of self” in direct experience – sensation, familiarity, thought saying “me”, body-map sensation?
Does the sense of self prove an actual self?

Think of a mirage. When you recognise it as a mirage, does the shimmering appearance disappear? No. What disappears is the assumption that it is water.
The illusion isn't destroyed—it is seen. There is a difference between an illusion and a delusion. Illusion is when something can be seen as something else, but the truth of what is real is known. Delusion is when the illusion is believed to be true. The same applies here.
The thought "I" does not need to disappear. Memories do not need to disappear. The body image does not need to disappear. Functional language does not need to disappear. The question has always been:
Does the thought "I" point to an independently existing entity?
Or is that the assumption that has been seen through?

Look at this picture.
Image
At first you may see a duck. Then someone points out that it is also a rabbit. After that, the image itself does not change. You don't have to force yourself to see the rabbit, nor can you permanently go back to seeing only the duck. The same lines are still there.
What has changed? Not the appearance. Only what is recognised.
The illusion wasn't "wrong lines." The illusion was taking one interpretation to be the only reality. The same is true here. The thought "I" does not have to disappear. The appearance remains. What changes is that the thought "I" is no longer taken to point to an independently existing self. That is why an illusion is different from a delusion. A delusion disappears when it is corrected. An illusion may continue to look exactly the same, even after the truth about it is known.
As Philip K. Dick beautifully put it: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
The thought "I" may continue to arise, just as the duck continues to look like a duck. The question is simply:
Does the thought "I" point to anything that can actually be found?
There is also some seeking in regards to seeing through self. I feel that I had a spark at one point of our inquiry dialogues, and the questions went deep, but some painful life happenings diverted my attention. Since then I haven't been able to ignite the spark inside to burn down the illusion. I feel that I would need to spend more time with the inquiries and spend more time sitting with DE.
There is an expectation, that there will be more distance from thoughts and feelings.
Many people expect a dramatic shift, and when it isn't there they think they haven't seen. You may be thinking that this is not enough, that some experiences need to happen, that you should be happy and blissful all the time :)
Expectations are one of the most frequent blocks to seeing what ‘reality’ actually is. We can blame Guru stories and the attraction to drama in our society for focusing on stories of the initial epiphany that people have as they wake up (because some have a ‘wow’ factor). This puts into our head, the idea of “bells and whistles”. We expect high drama to confirm that a significant shift has occurred. In many cases it happens quietly and gradually, as believes come one by one to be seen through. It may take days, months or years and it very much depends on the acquired conditioning. It also is self-organised - thoughts restructuring around the fact that there is no self, seen one belief at a time. It doesn't happen automatically - e.g. once it's seen no self and then ALL beliefs drop on the spot - nope. Resistance and strong emotions (fear, anger, blame, guilt) become a very good tool for spotting believes that are still lingering around. Question what you know is true. This falling away of old beliefs happens whether you do work on that or just stay with what is present, the process takes care of itself. Sometimes it is intense, sometimes it’s gentle, but there is no landing, only falling deeper and deeper into peace. As I warned you in the beginning of the inquiry:
I can promise you there will be no fireworks; it is just a subtle shift in perception! The only true expectation, that you can have, is that the seeking will end. If there are any other expectations, it's good to acknowledge them and then set them aside. It is all much simpler and ordinary.
Some common misconceptions:
That I will experience permanent bliss.
That I will be able to stop my thoughts.
I will be able to manifest prosperity.
I will never hurt others again
I will never develop dementia
I will never have any more interpersonal conflicts
I will never again get angry
I will never be hurt
I will be loved (approval of others)
I will always know what to do (control)
I will always feel good (control feelings / bliss)
:)

Seeing usually is not 24/7. There's usually a "honeymoon period," and then what we call, "got it, lost it," as untrue beliefs come up to be questioned. This can go on for months and years. This initial shift is irreversible, just as we can never go back to believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. We still use first-person pronouns to describe “ourselves” with the same ease we always had, even if such ideas have no more actual meaning than talking about Santa Claus once we learn “he” doesn’t exist either. The separate “self” is seen to have been nothing more than inference and interpretation.
As a result of getting this first irreversible understanding of who we aren’t there is a joyfulness or easiness, an initial cleansing of wrong views, and an illumination of what is (and is not) happening within and around us. Even though this illumination is temporary, it nevertheless constitutes a significant re-ordering of how we perceive ourselves and our place in the world.

This video could be quite useful :
https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w
Here is a Mahāmudrā koan for you:
Is there a difference between abiding in tranquillity (aka looking) and moving in thought (not looking/thinking)?
Don't answer conceptually. Look. Another old Buddhist saying points in the same direction:
Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
Nothing needs to disappear. Thoughts continue. The word "I" continues. Memory continues. Planning continues. The body moves. Conversations happen. Life unfolds. What changes is not the appearance, but what is taken to be true about it. The separate "I" that was assumed to be thinking, choosing, controlling and experiencing cannot be found.

Nothing essential needs to change for the illusion to be seen. The appearance may remain exactly as it always was; only the assumption about what it points to is no longer taken at face value.
You can have a look:
Is there a spark in direct experience?
Is there someone who lost it?
Is there someone who needs to ignite it again?
Is there an illusion that must be burned down?
Or are there thoughts, sensations, memory, expectation, comparison, and longing?
Is anything missing?

Distance is not liberation. Peace is not liberation. A spark is not liberation. Less believable thoughts are not liberation. Seeing that no separate self is found — here, now, in any experience — is the point.
If I'm honest with myself, I must say no. Thought says I need to work on it.
Is that doubtful thought (e.g. of lack of clarity) even yours or about you?
What is that entity that is outside of THIS, and is still confused or doubtful, or not being clear about THIS
What is doubt in direct experience?
Does doubt belong to anyone?
Does doubt know whether seeing is clear or not?
What is the expectation of “more distance” made of?
When thought says “I need to work on it,” is the worker found?
Right now, is a separate self found? Who would work on it? Who would complete it? Who would get the big fat YES?
Is there a Lilla who is almost there? Or is “almost there” another thought?


So the question is as always
Can an entity called Lilla/I/me or anything else be found as a doer, controller, thinker, etc..., or is it just language?
When anger arises and the story appears about an unfavoured life situation I'm in, I try to fix the external. There is seeking to get out of an unfavoured life situation and unfavoured connections.
Good.
Ordinary life may bring action - that is not a problem. But in direct experience, is there a seeker inside that?
Does anger say “I need to fix life”?
Does sensation say “this is unfavoured”?
Does thought say “when this changes, I’ll be okay”?

When anger, fear, blame, guilt, shame, or defensiveness appears, treat it as an invitation to look. Do not analyse the story first. Do not ask why. Do not try to get rid of the feeling. Pause and find the raw sensation.
Where is it felt? What is its texture? Is it moving, tight, hot, heavy, vibrating?
Does the sensation itself say ‘anger’, ‘fear’, ‘guilt’, ‘blame’?
Or are those labels and stories added by thought?

Stay with the sensation long enough to see what is actually there before the story takes over. Do not use this to suppress action. If something practical needs to be said, corrected, or done, that can still happen. The looking is only to separate the raw present experience from the story wrapped around it.Look there.

No spark needed. Just look.
Love
Rali
Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. ~Alan Alda
The mind that aims to understand reality can consider itself satisfied only by reducing it to terms of thought. ~ Albert Camus

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Re: What is real?

Postby LillaLilla » Sun Aug 30, 2026 8:42 am

Hi Rali,

Sorry for the late reply. I had no free time, until now.
Thank you for the clear explanations. They really helped.
What is the “sense of self” in direct experience – sensation, familiarity, thought saying “me”, body-map sensation?
Yes, all of that.
Does the sense of self prove an actual self?
No, it doesn't, and this is seen.
Does the thought "I" point to anything that can actually be found?
No, it doesn't, and it's a big, fat NO, it doesn't.
I found the video you'd shared very useful. It helped to accept how the process might unfolds.Things are actually shifting. Beliefs come up from time to time that no longer serve me, and by seeing them they loosen their grip. Behavioural patterns, and trigger responses are also seen more and more often in an objective light, in which I'm able to choose something different. I also find that I'm more trusting with life, and there is less tendency to try to fix things.
Is there a difference between abiding in tranquillity (aka looking) and moving in thought (not looking/thinking)?
Thought immediately says 'yes', but when I stay still with this sentence, there is no difference between the two.
Is there a spark in direct experience?
No.
Is there someone who lost it?
No.
Is there someone who needs to ignite it again?
No.
Is there an illusion that must be burned down?
No.
Or are there thoughts, sensations, memory, expectation, comparison, and longing?
That's all.
Is anything missing?
No.
Is that doubtful thought (e.g. of lack of clarity) even yours or about you?
It's anout noone.
What is that entity that is outside of THIS, and is still confused or doubtful, or not being clear about THIS?
There is no entity, these are just thoughts.
What is doubt in direct experience?
Thought then sensation.
Does doubt belong to anyone?
No.
Does doubt know whether seeing is clear or not?
No.
What is the expectation of “more distance” made of?
Thought, then sensation.
When thought says “I need to work on it,” is the worker found?
No. There is a strong sensation, then thought says "I need to work on it", then there is a sensation.
Right now, is a separate self found?
No. A lot of intense emotions came up this time, when looking for that separate self, which was a surprise, I stayed with the unfolding for a while, and now there is a feeling of peace.
Who would work on it?
Again, strong emotions came up, even crying appeared.
Who would complete it?
Nobody. There is a body-map sensation of spaciousness, and some uncomfortable feelings came up in this spaciousness. 
Who would get the big fat YES?
Nobody. Fear arose in the looking.
Is there a Lilla who is almost there?
Fear, tight arms, old feelings, scared feeling came up. Some tears. But it was all ok. 
Or is “almost there” another thought?
A thought came" this is too much." then "I have no patience with this".
Can an entity called Lilla/I/me or anything else be found as a doer, controller, thinker, etc..., or is it just language?
There is no answer. Just emptiness. I cannot say a thing. Crying appears.
Does anger say “I need to fix life”?
no.
Does sensation say “this is unfavoured”?
no.
Does thought say “when this changes, I’ll be okay”?
No.

No words are coming up right now. Just looking through the eyes.

Thank you.
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Re: What is real?

Postby poppyseed » Mon Aug 31, 2026 12:18 pm

Hi Lilla,
Beautiful. No need to say much here.
There were fear, crying, strong sensations, old feelings, spaciousness, thoughts like “this is too much.” or “I have no patience with this.” - but was the one found? Of course not. It was never there in the first place – just old thought patterns seen through…
No words are coming up right now. Just looking through the eyes.
Great. Let that be enough. No need to explain it, or hold in the peace , or make fear go away, or get a special confirmation. Fear may appear. Crying may appear. Doubt may appear. Peace may appear. Thought may say “too much” or “not enough.”
But is there an entity inside any of it?
There is no answer. Just emptiness. I cannot say a thing. Crying appears.
Yes. Stay simple – seeing, sensation, thought, crying, fear, peace with no owner.
This is not about getting rid of the sense of self. The sense of self may still appear as body-map sensation, familiarity, thought saying “me.” (the illusion). But as you saw clearly the sense of self doesn’t prove an actual self, just familiar sensations + a thought “me”
A thought “I” or doubt appear – it does not belong to anyone.
Fear appears. It does not prove danger. It’s a thought + sensation. The raw sensation is “innocent”, meaning-less (stay with it, don't try to change it). The thought is part of the self-organisation happening, when old thought patterns resist new ideas/descriptions.
Crying appears. It does not prove someone crying. It’s just a release from holding tight.

What you describe sounds like the five stages of grief - denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. Even though the self was never there in the first place, the story was there...
When someone we know dies, it takes time for that to "sink in". It's not that we don't believe that the person has died. It is just they are still part of our lives - we open the wardrobe and their clothes are still there, we walk in the park and we remember when we used to do it together. It takes time to readjust our lives to living without them. That process of “sinking in” can be observed in many other situations – like being diagnosed with a life changing disease, losing a job that we had for a long time etc. Even though the change is sudden and quick, it can be perceived as a long process – it can feel as though something is still sinking in, or hasn’t yet sunk in.

The point applies equally to habitual patterns of thought and activity, which similarly reflect how our lives are organised. When the established patterns of a life are disturbed, thought cannot adapt to all of this in an instant, simply by revising all of our old beliefs. Much of the old organisation lingers on, in the guise of a world that we continue to experience and in habitual patterns of thought and activity that our surroundings continue to elicit. That very much applies to seeing the illusion of an “I” - it’s quite a sudden change with a relatively long process of adapting to this change. The recognition of no self is just the beginning of seeing life and “yourself” in a new light. It takes time to clean up all old beliefs and conditioning.

To “deal” with this, question everything, and little by little you will notice changes in everyday life: less judgment, more openness; less thinking, more appreciation; less story, more being; less structure, more flow. You will notice that some habitual thoughts no longer arise. The story changes in a way that allows more space for simply being.
There might still be expectations, confusion, and doubt. That’s quite normal at this stage. You may be swaying between “I get it” and “I don’t get it.” You may be thinking that this is not enough, that some experiences need to happen, that you should be happy and blissful all the time. When these thoughts arise, bring the focus to what is present here now. Just THIS. And look again: what is here that wants THIS to be different (including the presence of doubtful thoughts)?
A spring cleaning of all those useless expectations is the only thing that needs to happen. It’s really simple: notice expectations as they arise and see how they hold an image of how it should be in contrast to how it is. Feel the gap. See where they come from— what you've read, heard, thought... Are these expectations really yours? Do you have to meet these expectations? What happens if you don’t?
Notice the tension that is connected to the wanting. Feel the sensation. What is that?
Of course, the tension is here because of the fear that expectations won’t be met. The feelings of sadness, regret, shame, guilt, anger, desperation, and hopelessness, are all close friends of expectation. If one can let go of wants, shoulds, and should nots, triggers are released too. No more expectations, no more fear that they won’t be met, no more resistance to what is here now. In the end, all that is left is surrender and flow.

Now let this settle for a couple of days. Then, when it feels natural, we have some checkpoint questions. Would you like to answer these? Just let me know when you want to do that
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Rali
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Re: What is real?

Postby poppyseed » Tue Sep 01, 2026 1:17 pm

Hi Lilla

I'll be on a yoga retreat until Sunday. I'm not sure what the Wi-Fi or reception will be like, but I'll check in whenever I can.

So if my replies are a bit slower than usual, don't wait on me. 😊

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Re: What is real?

Postby LillaLilla » Wed Sep 02, 2026 4:40 pm

Hi Rali,

I hope you're having a good time on your retreat.:) of course, it's totally fine if you don't reply until next week.

your words really help to ease expectations. There is more flow, that gut instinct of what feels right in the moment is stronger. There is also more trust in life, less worrying.
In some situations, strong bodily sensations arise and the realisation that the sensation is not 'me', there was just an identification with it.
Many limiting beliefs and denied desires have surfaces, and now I see how I've kept myself small. The experience limited. Honesty appeared. Anger arose in the seeing and a drive to change the beliefs. It is painful to see that trying to change them is pointless.
Are these expectations really yours?
It is seen that there were a lot of self imposed expectations. Not mine
.Do you have to meet these expectations?
With some it is easy to say no. With others, there is fear.
.What happens if you don’t?
Uncomfortable body-map sensations. Tension, fear.
.Wehave some checkpoint questions. Would you like to answer these?
Yes. I'd love that :)

Thank you.
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Re: What is real?

Postby poppyseed » Mon Sep 07, 2026 9:38 am

Hi Lilla,
Beautiful.
It is painful to see that trying to change them is pointless.
Careful here. It is not that change is pointless. Change happens, beliefs loosen, honesty appears, anger appears, new action appears, boundaries may happen, speech may happen. Life may reorganise. What is pointless is the belief that a separate “me” can control and force this process.
So when the thought says, “I must change these beliefs,” look:
Is there a changer? Is there someone who can force belief to disappear? Is there helpless someone that is not in control?
Or are there beliefs appearing, seeing appearing, anger appearing, honesty appearing, action appearing?

No need to become passive – icons on your desktop. Life still moves.
Do you have to meet these expectations?
With some it is easy to say no. With others, there is fear.
Good. Stay with the ones where fear appears.
Does fear mean the expectation must be met?
Does fear know what should happen?
Does fear prove there is a “me” who must obey the expectation?
Or is there sensation, thought, image, and old conditioning appearing resisting the new view (confirmation bias in the self-organisation of thoughts)?

Look at one expectation that brings fear. Don’t go into the story. Just feel the fear.
What is fear before the label “fear”? Tightness? Pressure? Heat? Contraction? Shaking? Numbness?
Does the sensation itself say “I have to”? Does it say “I must meet this expectation”? Does it say “something bad will happen”? Does it say “this is mine”?
Or does thought add those meanings?

Expectation appears. ‘Fear’ appears. Thought says “I have to.” / “I can’t say no.” / “this is dangerous.”
But is the one who has to meet the expectation found?
This is not about forcing a no. It is not about rebelling against expectations. It is simply seeing whether fear points to an actual obligation, or whether fear is sensation plus thought-story.
Sit with this for a couple of days and then we can move to the checkpoint questions.

Love
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Re: What is real?

Postby LillaLilla » Wed Sep 09, 2026 11:41 am

Hi Rali,
What is pointless is the belief that a separate “me” can control and force this process.
Sure, I understand that.
Is there a changer?
There isn't
Is there someone who can force belief to disappear?
There isn't. It all happens by itself.
Is there helpless someone that is not in control?
No.
Or are there beliefs appearing, seeing appearing, anger appearing, honesty appearing, action appearing?
Exactly.
Does fear mean the expectation must be met?
No. What a relief!
Does fear know what should happen?
No.
Does fear prove there is a “me” who must obey the expectation?
No.
Or is there sensation, thought, image, and old conditioning appearing resisting the new view (confirmation bias in the self-organisation of thoughts)?
Yes.
What is fear before the label “fear”? Tightness? Pressure? Heat? Contraction? Shaking? Numbness?
It's tightness. An uncomfortable contraction. When intense feelings come up, like fear, it is seen more and more often that it's just a sensation and it's not mine. 
Does the sensation itself say “I have to”? Does it say “I must meet this expectation”? Does it say “something bad will happen”? Does it say “this is mine”?
Or does thought add those meanings?
Thought adds those meanings.
But is the one who has to meet the expectation found?
No. Nothing is found, just sensations.

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Re: What is real?

Postby poppyseed » Thu Sep 10, 2026 9:55 am

Hi Lilla

Wonderful!
Is there still any confusion?
Can you say with a big fat YES, it is clear what the illusion of a separate self is?

Look carefully before answering - not whether thoughts are gone, not whether emotions (e.g. fear) are gone, not whether the sense of self still appears.
Just this: Is it clear what the illusion is?

If fear, doubt, hesitation, or pressure appears, good — look right there.
What is it in DE?
Does it belong to anyone?
Does it prove a self?

Do you want to move on to the checkpoint questions?


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Re: What is real?

Postby LillaLilla » Fri Sep 11, 2026 10:37 am

Hi Rali,
Can you say with a big fat YES, it is clear what the illusion of a separate self is?
Yes! I can :)
Do you want to move on to the checkpoint questions?
Yes please :)

Thank you
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Re: What is real?

Postby poppyseed » Sat Sep 19, 2026 7:35 am

Hi Lilla

We had some problems with the forum but it seems to be working now. I apologise for the delay!

Here are the questions. Please answer all questions in full, when you are ready. Please answer ​what's true for you rather than any sort of 'ideal' answer
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

Love
Rali
Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. ~Alan Alda
The mind that aims to understand reality can consider itself satisfied only by reducing it to terms of thought. ~ Albert Camus


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