Looping patterns of behaviour

[teddycolumbo]

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
As a searcher of many years I have found a point of nihilism that leads me to irresponsible behaviours (like drinking alcohol and smoking) that then lead to regret which pont to the opposite - that I actually do care.
But then there is no self, so who is the one who cares? I don't know.

What are you looking for at LU?
I want to experience the reality of no-self. But I understand in theory that there is no I to experience this. So I don't really understand. It would be great to talk this through and be guided to new perspectives. I have experience but I am open minded to explore my dark spots of ignorance.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
I am missing some steps or clues.
I would like a guide to agitate or inspire me out of this period where I feel stuck. I expect patience, and logic.
Hopefully some nice conversation and empathy. It would be nice to get somebody enthusiastic and consistent.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I have completed meditation retreats and read books several years ago.
But now (last 3 or 5 years) I am out of spiritual practice and my focus and patience is low.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 9

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[Anastacia42]

My name is Stacy and I can be your guide, if you would like.

Let's see what we can do. It may take weeks or even months & is completely nonlinear & unpred8ctable.

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To begin with, so that we both become aware of what your expectations are about this exploration. In your own words (not from actual experience, but just honest answers), could you please answer the 4 following questions:

How will life change?
How will you change?
What will be different?
What is missing?

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What would you like for me to call you? What time zone are you in, please?


Loving,

[teddycolumbo]

Hi Stacy
Appologies for the lateness of my reply.

I am in Melbourne Australia which is Australian Eastern Standard Time - 10 ahead of GMT.

Please call me Mike

How will life change?

I'm hoping to let go of things. Settle down a little. Find contentment in the grander picture.

No me to take so seriously!
If nothing matters, what's the point?

How will you change?

I would like to enjoy the ride of life as it is.
I would like to feel less separate.

What will be different?

Less blindness.
Less automation and unconcious playing along.

What is missing?

I dont know

[Anastacia42]

Hi Mike

Did you have trouble with the site? Is been down some this past couple of weeks. They're working on it.

Those are reasonable answers.

Now what comes up when reading that there is no separate self, never has been, and never will be? That the whole thing was a made up story that we believed.


Loving,