Thread for Matias

[Matias]

Ok, good, for moment the thing that you explain me look more clear, i need more time with this for seeing what happen. I will write tomorrow with more information.


Thanks!

[Matias]

Still with this. Not totally clear yet. Will keep looking.


Thanks!

[Ilona]

How is it going?
Did you find your answer?


Sending love

[Matias]

Not really, still on the same. Looking all day.

[Ilona]

Hi Matias,
Would you like another guide?
It may be good for you to work with someone else, as it looks that our conversation is not as intense and focused anymore.
What do you think?

Sending love

[Matias]

Hi Ilona, i prefer to keep with your guide, I'm taking a few days to rest and solve some other everyday things. But always with the questions on mind. If you do not have problem, I prefer to stay with you, at least for some time more.



Thanks.

[Ilona]

No worries, I'm ghappy to continue working with you.
So let's recap, where are you at? What are you looking for? What are you looking at? What is here that still does not want to rest?

[Matias]

No worries, I'm ghappy to continue working with you.

Thank you, i appreciate your help very much and make me very good.

So let's recap, where are you at? What are you looking at?

In this days i am focused more in "deep looking" and "the option method" of bruce di marsico. If you dont saw it i think you will enjoy it a lot, because it is similar to "the sedona method", but i like this more.
I am focused in relax a little the "negative emotions" to make the investigation of "no self" and the day by day a little more easy.
And at the same time i am focused on the pointer about "there is no experiencer", that look very real, because i dont find an experiencer, all that i find is experience...

What are you looking for?

I am looking for clarity, i want to see the illusion of self without any doubt.

What is here that still does not want to rest?

I dont know, i think that there is the idea that rest is danger or counterproductive, I was educated by a father a little addicted to work, so when i want to rest it is very difficult for me because i feel that i am loosing time or doing something bad or wrong. And at the same time there are a lot of worries.



Thanks!

[Matias]

Recently i was seeing a tv program about humas working on biological computers... And i was thinking that when we see something amazing that the animals make, like the birds that make caves or other wonderful things, we say " what amazing is the nature", but when we see humans that make worderful thing we say "what amazing are the humans", but i was thinking, what would we thinks if the tigers act like humans and has the capacity to make things like advanced tecnology or things like that...? Then we will say "what amazing is the nature"... So this give me a sense of that what humans make it´s still what nature(or universe - or totallity) is doing...

And what i do, is what nature or totallity is doing..., so in a sense i am not doing nothing, the totallity is doing everything...


But I do not know if this has to do with what we talked about before, maybe it's just a sensation of totality or something like that.
If you want to say something about this, that will helps.


Thanks!

[Ilona]

And what i do, is what nature or totallity is doing..., so in a sense i am not doing nothing, the totallity is doing everything...

Oh yes! Nicely put.

Totality is expressing itself through and as experiencing.

Humans like to be above nature, all because of assumed separateness. But as you are noticing, it’s only labels, not actuality.

Good work :)
You are staring at it.
Write more, what you see? Write about choose, decision making and free will. How do you see it now?


Much love

[Matias]

Humans like to be above nature, all because of assumed separateness.

Yes, i see what you say.

Totality is expressing itself through and as experiencing.

Can you talk more about this?

Write more, what you see? Write about choose, decision making and free will. How do you see it now?

This is very recent... But some hours before i was seeing the decisions as more "naturals"... As if human are as they are for the same reason that tigers are as they are...Like there is no way for humans to act differently. Is something natural to Tigers to eat meat and make growls, and is something natural to humans to think about the future, and to compare with others, and feel love, envy, hate, etc etc.
It would be interesting to see some tv show in "Animal Planet" about Humans and they behavior, as another animal...

I will keep deepening in this. There is some type of resistance in believe in this, there is some idea that that is not the ultimate true..., like if i am simplifying the nonduality... But i will keep seeing what happen and will write with more information.


Thanks!

[Ilona]

Keep looking for simplicity. That which can not be simpler is what you want to arrive at. Everything is simple. Obvious and always been that way. It's the mind stories that make everything complicated. So what is the simplest thing? We are nature itself. We are expression of life as human form. We are not individual selves, but one united whole expressing as unique form. Can you see how this is simple?

Write what you notice,
Much love

[Matias]

So what is the simplest thing? We are nature itself. We are expression of life as human form. We are not individual selves, but one united whole expressing as unique form. Can you see how this is simple?

Yes, this sound clear and simple. I will keep focusing on this, and then write againg.


Thanks!

[Matias]

Ilona, hope you are very well, i just write to say that keep with this, i am giving space to let this advance, i think it is progresing, and for moment looks clear, so i will keep giving this space, i think is the best.
So I just write to send hugs. And will write againg soon.


Thanks!

[Ilona]

Hi Matias,
Are you still here? How is it going?

Hugs