Almost there - intellectually and conceptually, missing the direct understanding

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Re: Almost there - intellectually and conceptually, missing the direct understanding

Postby b0dhi » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:56 pm

Hi Piers

Good to hear from you as always.
Knowing itself recognises it's being and does not identify with the ego self
Who is the knower?
Bodhi

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Re: Almost there - intellectually and conceptually, missing the direct understanding

Postby toadisms » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:13 am

There is no knower, only a watchful knowing. a presence of being. Just consciousness is all there is.

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Re: Almost there - intellectually and conceptually, missing the direct understanding

Postby b0dhi » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:22 am

Lovely :)

And what is Piers? What is the self that calls itself by that name?
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Re: Almost there - intellectually and conceptually, missing the direct understanding

Postby toadisms » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:25 am

Piers is an activity of mind bound in conceptual space and time, consciousness pretending to be a separate entity. Reinforced by habit and conditioning, 'Piers' is a story of a separate self, a fragment of consciousness. As such Piers is the subject and the world/universe is the other/object, he has 'a life' and must seek for happiness within it all the time unaware that he is conciousness itself and the objects he seeks are all made of that consciousness. Everything he seeks he has already has, but his awareness is veiled by his sense of separateness and belief and fear that he is a finite, fragile entity.

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Re: Almost there - intellectually and conceptually, missing the direct understanding

Postby b0dhi » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:28 pm

For Piers to exist there needs to be a separation between "Piers" and "not Piers", or in another way, "Piers" and "World", or in another way "subject" and "object".

What happens when you look for Piers? Can you find such a thing outside of mental abstraction?
What happens when you look for World? Can you find such a thing outside of mental abstraction?
What happens when you look for separation? Can you find such a thing outside of mental abstraction?
he has 'a life' and must seek for happiness within it
What can Piers own? Is there a choice about Piers having "a life"? Or is it just life...."living" a Piers?
Did Piers create his "life"?
Did Piers create his "body"? What about his thoughts, feelings and perceptions? Or is it that these things exist just as life wants them - and Piers is the mirage that claims ownership until examined?

Look at this carefully and deeply. Is Piers really an object? Or is Piers really a process inseparable from the totality?
Bodhi

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