p.s. I now understand why many other approaches to teaching this don't work - because they speak of this self that has to surrender or be dissolved or be purified as if it were real, and yet say it is an illusion. Have spent a lifetime wrestling with a phantom of imagination!!! Trying to be so ...

Everyone seems to have different post-gate experiences. Particularly, following this initial seeing, this period can be very fruitful in that more layers are seen through, and the "self" bit by bit is completely taken out of the picture.

Your experience of "melting away" is a common one too. It's ...

Thanks, John. I look forward to your response and to visiting the 'after care' forum. An interesting experience this afternoon - of almost melting away completely (or of dissolving) - then fear came up. The image that came afterwards to represent the sensation felt was of thought gripping the ...

1) Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever? how about self, is there anything that is separate from everything else?

Is there a me in any shape or form? No, there is only Being - life manifesting through this form, this consciousness, this particular set of ...

Dear John,

I think I'm ready to answer those questions now and move into LU's aftercare program. Seeing clearer and clearer. There are moments of forgetting - until the thoughts are seen, or the resistance to whatever is is seen and released.

Deepening sense of inner peace and contentment, of ...

It's been a joy to read your posts. :)

Thank you.

Would you say that the separate self running the show has now been seen through fully and completely?


No, I wouldn't say that yet. Perhaps largely - but there are still many subtle (and not so subtle) layers of self at work. Woke this morning ...

Smiling w-i-d-e-l-y! Thank you.

Good night.

I know what you mean. :) There is a sense of "Oh, so this is how the 'I' was made - so what happens if I do this?"

It is seen how deftly simple the process is and, having seen through it, how it is only a narrowing of life.

Yes, awareness - that most mysterious of what? Things? Aspects? Seems ...

Something's hooking me now. Phew! Going to try sleeping first and see if that helps. Very tired. But also interesting to see how quickly the fog of thought descends when something doesn't want to be seen.

Yes.

What more can be said.

Perhaps tomorrow.

Going to sleep now. :)

Best wishes,
John


Yes - not much to say. Awareness that there is no 'I' that can ever go through the gate. Yet still there are thoughts that suggest there is a movement of self through time - not so much an evolution now as ...

s-p-a-c-e wrote:
Really go after that sense of a doer/see-er/be-er. :)

Look at it, sense it, feel it....!!!!

And then, see that the look-er, sense-er, feel-er, doesn't exist.

Woke "too" early this morning, resisted getting up, "tried" to get back to sleep. Felt tension building in body ...

Really go after that sense of a doer/see-er/be-er. :)

Look at it, sense it, feel it....!!!!



And then, see that the look-er, sense-er, feel-er, doesn't exist.

Thanks, John. Very busy day, so not a lot of time to really sit with this. Have to say there's definitely been some significant ...

YES, you are feeling life. Excellent. No separation at all. Play some more.

Still playing. There's a deepening serenity, flow, connectedness with my surroundings, with other people, with events that happen to/around me. Resistance is dropping away. Like tonight, I thought I'd found the perfect ...

Hi,

Good to meet you. :) Enjoyed the journey thus far. Particularly, the "lion" energy in the reading. Felt that in North Wales!

Thank you so much for assisting me with my journey. Deeply grateful to you both and to this forum community.[/color]

I feel as though a big fat surface layer of this ...

there is still the sense of a doer (even if an illusory one)

What is the sense of a doer made up of?
The container of my body, the sequence of sensations, the particular response of this mind/body system to the world of experience and sensation, memories of past 'doings', imaginings of future ...