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Is there sense of self or not, now?

Yes at times - but I see it for what it is. I observe what's happening more, I notice people caught up in sense of self, and catch myself at it too at times.

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I wrote that whole lives and identities are built around sense of self, but actually it occurs to me that sense of self is in the driving seat. It directs, manages, controls, protects (or thinks it does). It is looking for the next fix, adrenaline rush, consumer gadget. It is looking for ...

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Please tell everything you realized about about self.

A baby is born. It experiences life quite simply - then it is given a label - a name. Instead of this being used for communication and convenience, it is the start of the construct of identity, persona, self, my teddy, my mummy, my ...

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Sorry for radio silence. Always happens with a difficult question :)

What if you don’t use any of the three words (consciousness energy awareness) I mentioned in my previous post?
Please describe more.

There is some sort of life force, divine spirit, interconnected web of everything ...

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How do you see “consciousness,” “awareness”
or “energy” now?


This seems to be what they mean by "consciousness being aware of itself"

So consciousness is experiencing, consciousness is noticing ( is the watcher,) and at the same time is the big bowl of soup from which everything arises

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Without the concept of "layer," what drinks water?

Could you actually drink it and observe again?

Nothing is drinking the water. Though that sounds ridiculous and impossible to substantiate.

The drinking of water is just a set of experiences .... and actually the set of experiences could ...

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"The doing is one layer. Then a step back is the experiencing of the doing. Maybe they're the same level/layer, I'm not sure. "
Could you keep observing the part you aren't sure about?
Is there really a layer? Or is it something conceptual?

The layers are conceptual.
The doing is perceived ...

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"It feels like its different layers of the same onion". Could you elaborate?

The doing is one layer. Then a step back is the experiencing of the doing. Maybe they're the same level/layer, I'm not sure. Then a step back is noticing of the doing and experiencing. This seems to have some ...

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Now, if you were to give another name to what you call consciousness, what would it be?

Awareness, intelligence

Is "consciousness" separate from the doing and experiencing?

It feels like its different layers of the same onion

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Yes it feels impossible

What would you say without any theorization?

What moves the finger?

Ok if I cant theorize I'll go with what I know. Typing is something that's learned. It's a phone I've had for years. So typing just happens automatically (triggered by thought?) but with little ...

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Back to the question of what is doing the typing (or walking, eating, etc.), is it the "electrical current" you're referring to that is doing it?

Please observe and tell the process of "electrical current" moving the fingers.

The electrical current or energy isn't moving the fingers ...

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WHAT is "energy" in direct experience? (Not how it works, what it does or where it is, but what is it?)

It what is there all the time and remains unchanged by direct experience. A natural electrical current that runs through everything

Energy/consciousness is 'using' the body to experience the world as a human

Energy is there/here/wherever whether there is any direct experience going on or not. It is prior to direct experience, it is 'present' during direct experience and it is there after direct experience and during sleep and after death. Energy doesn't die, only the body dies