Hello Jon,

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
There is no separate entity ‘self’, ‘me’, ‘I’ at all anywhere, in any way, shape or form. Never was. So crazy to realize there never was!
2) Explain in detail what the ...

Jon,

But still pretty sick so I don’t know when I’ll be writing these answers.

Love,
Renee

Jon,

I’ve been sick for a couple days but I’ve been working on it a little bit.

In gratitude,
Renee

Hi Jon,
There are thoughts that it is precarious and it’s important for it to be cultivated? Notice that sort of thought. It can be imagined that no self is some kind of state that needs to be cultivated or maintained.

Is it?
It is clear no self is not a state and doesn't need to be maintained ...

Jon,

I am so grateful for our dialogue thank you so much Jon.

Can you say with a big fat 'Yes' that the illusion of a separate self is seen through?

Do you have any doubts? If so now would be a good time to mention them.


It is a big fat ‘Yes’ the illusion of a separate self is seen through ...

Hi Jon,

I had wrote “it seems at some point no words” because words were losing significance when I looked at your question about separation. It seemed no word could be used to describe.

I need more time with your questions.

Thank you so much,
Renee

Jon,

You might notice that there are times when judgement and worry thoughts do appear...and get believed in for a while, like dreaming that there is a 'real me', like a real victim in a story of whatever thought happens to be 'talking' about?

But is it seen that 'waking up' from believing such ...

Hi Jon,

There is no 'manager'. It is just thoughts upon thoughts about controlling life.

When this 'choice' happens in the mind it does not make the hand go up. Even the thought to decide to raise it now, I don't know what decided when that should happen or how the thought even arose. When the ...

Jon,

Who or what is experiencing 'stress'?

It is like 'stress' is just happening.

This is not to deny that there can be uncomfortable sensations and thoughts about 'the stress of trying to manage'. But where is the 'manager'?


There is no 'manager'. It is just thoughts upon thoughts about ...

Jon,

What is that 'self' beyond various ideas about one?

I don't find it. There isn't one beyond ideas.

And yet everything happens anyway.

What about that? What makes things happen?

It is perplexing. I have no idea how or why things happen. I can't grab hold of it. The stress seems to be in ...

Jon,

Is there a self that can cultivate its self?

No. Cultivating thoughts are like any thought just happening on its own.

But wow there could be many unnecessary add ons. How do you see the role of these? Do you notice any examples of these from experience?

I was looking at the reflection ...

Jon,

Try going to the mirror and take a look. Colours appear as 'reflection', don't they? But is it 'a person', 'me' that is reflected? Or is the 'person' a thought about what is reflected?

Yes colors in the mirror appear as reflection, it's is not a 'me' reflected and yes, the 'person' is a ...

Jon,

Is there a noticer of that which is noticed?

Its hard to find a noticer. It seems what I find is thoughts about something observing. It's hard to get around the thoughts. It's just thoughts upon thoughts when I look. It feels like I think and feel that something is there behind the thoughts ...

Jon,

Does there,seem to be an experiencer?

There seems to be an experiencer. It's like something is taking in the information of experiences. Like an observer.

Not taking in...more like watching.

Thanks,
Renee

Jon,

Does there,seem to be an experiencer?

There seems to be an experiencer. It's like something is taking in the information of experiences. Like an observer.

Thank you,
Renee