Just to be clear, is there a separate 'you' looking at it?
No, there is no separate 'me' looking at it. That would also be a thought.
You wrote in your introduction: "I want to experience directly what liberation is..."
How would you describe the experience now with respect to this?
The 'I ...
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- Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:00 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
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- Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:50 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
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Re: Seeking Liberation
4) Was there something you looked into or something I may have mentioned that made you fully realise - Was there a moment where you 'tipped over' into realising 'no self'?
It seemed to be more gradual for me rather than a single moment I can point to where it was realized.
5) Describe decision ...
It seemed to be more gradual for me rather than a single moment I can point to where it was realized.
5) Describe decision ...
- Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:41 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
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Re: Seeking Liberation
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No, there is no separate self anywhere to be found and there never was.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own ...
No, there is no separate self anywhere to be found and there never was.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own ...
- Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:36 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
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Re: Seeking Liberation
Hi Xain, I apologize for the delay in my response to your post below. I have been out unexpectedly the last few days. I will be sending my response to your questions tomorrow.
- Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:52 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
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Re: Seeking Liberation
Thanks, Xain. I appreciate the clarification
Often, the expectation is that the 'I' in thoughts will from now on, always be 'seen through'. But can you see that would require a controller over thoughts?
Yes, I see now that this was a sort of unconscious assumption that I had about seeing through ...
Often, the expectation is that the 'I' in thoughts will from now on, always be 'seen through'. But can you see that would require a controller over thoughts?
Yes, I see now that this was a sort of unconscious assumption that I had about seeing through ...
- Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:11 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
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Re: Seeking Liberation
What is expected to shift?
I don't think there was/is any expectation that a shift would happen... I was saying that in response to your question/comment that perhaps the realization was not earth shattering. So to answer another way, yes, there was nothing earth shattering that occurred, just a ...
I don't think there was/is any expectation that a shift would happen... I was saying that in response to your question/comment that perhaps the realization was not earth shattering. So to answer another way, yes, there was nothing earth shattering that occurred, just a ...
- Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:16 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
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Re: Seeking Liberation
How do you feel? I sense this realisation isn't 'earth shattering' for you, perhaps?
I would not say I feel any different than I did before. There was not an earth shattering realization or shift, but I tried to put all expectations aside.
Does what we have covered make sense? Are things clear ...
I would not say I feel any different than I did before. There was not an earth shattering realization or shift, but I tried to put all expectations aside.
Does what we have covered make sense? Are things clear ...
- Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:49 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
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Re: Seeking Liberation
I understand, but even here is there a 'real you' doing that?
Is there a 'real you' who is not doing that if that task isn't being engaged in?
No, there is no 'real me' doing any of this, it just seems that way until it is investigated further.
You realise 'no self' when it is realised that ...
Is there a 'real you' who is not doing that if that task isn't being engaged in?
No, there is no 'real me' doing any of this, it just seems that way until it is investigated further.
You realise 'no self' when it is realised that ...
- Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:35 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
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Re: Seeking Liberation
Is there a 'real you' questioning it?
No, there is not a real 'me' that can be found.
What would be the difference?
Who's 'actual experience' are you referring to?
Perhaps I am waiting for some felt experience or there is an expectation or assumption that somehow the realization will be ...
No, there is not a real 'me' that can be found.
What would be the difference?
Who's 'actual experience' are you referring to?
Perhaps I am waiting for some felt experience or there is an expectation or assumption that somehow the realization will be ...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:57 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6117
Re: Seeking Liberation
We did 'feeling' - Was there a separate 'thing' found doing the feeling?
Was the body doing the feeling?
Or perhaps you mean something more general - How so?
More of a general sense (maybe assumption is a better way to put it) that there is a separate self that is doing the experiencing. Again ...
Was the body doing the feeling?
Or perhaps you mean something more general - How so?
More of a general sense (maybe assumption is a better way to put it) that there is a separate self that is doing the experiencing. Again ...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:47 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6117
Re: Seeking Liberation
Was there ever a real choice? I mean EVER?
No, just thoughts that can make it appear as if there was a choice.
Will there ever be a real choice?
Is there even a 'real choice' to reply to this message or not?
There is no real choice to reply to this message. There is no chooser to be found and ...
No, just thoughts that can make it appear as if there was a choice.
Will there ever be a real choice?
Is there even a 'real choice' to reply to this message or not?
There is no real choice to reply to this message. There is no chooser to be found and ...
- Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:29 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
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Re: Seeking Liberation
1) Can what created or 'made' that thought or imagined object be found?
Nothing can be found that created or made the thought.
2) Can what is witnessing the thought or imagined object be found?
No, a witness to the thought cannot be found.
3) What control is there to create thoughts, or to ...
Nothing can be found that created or made the thought.
2) Can what is witnessing the thought or imagined object be found?
No, a witness to the thought cannot be found.
3) What control is there to create thoughts, or to ...
- Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:01 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6117
Re: Seeking Liberation
So what makes 'a branch swaying in the wind' different from 'my arm that is rising into the air'?
I mean we would normally assume one is 'just happening' and the other 'is being controlled by a self'?
There is no difference between a branch swaying in the wind and my arm rising into the air. Both ...
I mean we would normally assume one is 'just happening' and the other 'is being controlled by a self'?
There is no difference between a branch swaying in the wind and my arm rising into the air. Both ...
- Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:53 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6117
Re: Seeking Liberation
1) Can what is making the hand / arm rise into the air (the muscles contract etc) be FOUND?
No, nothing can be found that is making this happen.
2) Can an 'I', a Justin, (or the body itself??) be found making that happen?
No, just an underlying assumption that I am doing it, nothing could be ...
No, nothing can be found that is making this happen.
2) Can an 'I', a Justin, (or the body itself??) be found making that happen?
No, just an underlying assumption that I am doing it, nothing could be ...
- Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:03 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Seeking Liberation
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6117
Re: Seeking Liberation
Is 'I am experiencing' or 'This body is experiencing' anything more than an idea - A belief - A thought?
It feels as if I am experiencing what is being experienced, but when I look directly I cannot find the 'I' that is experiencing. Also, the thoughts about 'I' experiencing are very subtle, more ...
It feels as if I am experiencing what is being experienced, but when I look directly I cannot find the 'I' that is experiencing. Also, the thoughts about 'I' experiencing are very subtle, more ...

