LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this? The separate self is based on past conditioning via stories, labels, beliefs, memories and does not exist. Only one's direct experience based in the present moment is true. This happens through our senses: hearing, seeing, tasting, touching, smelling, and from our feelings and thoughts. Although our thoughts are "real" their content may not be.
What are you looking for at LU? To connect with a guide who can support my process of remaining grounded in my direct experience. Since the path of non-duality is still relatively new for me, I am studying LU's quotes, videos, and literature to remain clear in releasing the "mythical me" and sense of separation.
What do you expect from a guided conversation? Consistent reminders of what is "real" versus what is "unreal." I believe a guide can help me collapse the sense of separation between the "seeker" and what is "seen", between "subject" and "object" and resolve the sense of duality.
What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry? I have been a seeker for many years and my commitment to awakening is now the core focus of my life. My path was A Course in Miracles for 15 years and more currently, Advaita Vedanta. I am attending non-dual online retreats, watching non-dual teachers daily, and meditate daily. I practice self-inquiry and follow the teachings of Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Rupert Spira, and Swami Atmananda.
On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 10
AwakeningbyGrace
Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Hi there,
Welcome to the forum.
I am so happy that you are familiar with Ramana's pointing!
My name is Lubo and I can join you here, if you are OK?
What name you prefer to call you?
Look at Ramana's eyes (I think you have his picture or can find it in the web)...
and notice:
All ideas about someone/me who is wrong, who is not free, who is guilty , who is not worthy to exist or not worthy of love, or separate... Does this one exist?
Much love to you,
Lubo
Welcome to the forum.
I am so happy that you are familiar with Ramana's pointing!
My name is Lubo and I can join you here, if you are OK?
What name you prefer to call you?
Beautiful.The separate self is based on past conditioning via stories, labels, beliefs, memories and does not exist. Only one's direct experience based in the present moment is true. This happens through our senses: hearing, seeing, tasting, touching, smelling, and from our feelings and thoughts. Although our thoughts are "real" their content may not be.
Look at Ramana's eyes (I think you have his picture or can find it in the web)...
and notice:
All ideas about someone/me who is wrong, who is not free, who is guilty , who is not worthy to exist or not worthy of love, or separate... Does this one exist?
Much love to you,
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
https://luchanalubo.com/
https://luchanalubo.com/
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Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Greetings Lubo!
I received a message from you in December and did not realize it was coming from an LU guide. Thankfully, Nerina re-sent it to me today after I inquired about being assigned to a guide.
If you are the one still willing to help me, here is what you asked me: All ideas about someone/me who is wrong, who is not free, who is guilty , who is not worthy to exist or not worthy of love, or separate... Does this one exist?
My response: No. This one does not exist. There is no self worthy or unworthy of love, or who is not free, guilty or separate. The "mythical me" I used to identify with is based on past programming, assumptions, beliefs, and preferences.
Grace (My full name is Laura Grace and I go by "Grace" with my friends)
I received a message from you in December and did not realize it was coming from an LU guide. Thankfully, Nerina re-sent it to me today after I inquired about being assigned to a guide.
If you are the one still willing to help me, here is what you asked me: All ideas about someone/me who is wrong, who is not free, who is guilty , who is not worthy to exist or not worthy of love, or separate... Does this one exist?
My response: No. This one does not exist. There is no self worthy or unworthy of love, or who is not free, guilty or separate. The "mythical me" I used to identify with is based on past programming, assumptions, beliefs, and preferences.
Grace (My full name is Laura Grace and I go by "Grace" with my friends)
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Hi dear Laura Grace, what beautiful name
Yes I am here for you.
What you are looking for, precisely?
What is not OK, right now?
Much love,
Lubo
Yes I am here for you.
OK.Thank you.No. This one does not exist. There is no self worthy or unworthy of love, or who is not free, guilty or separate. The "mythical me" I used to identify with is based on past programming, assumptions, beliefs, and preferences.
What you are looking for, precisely?
What is not OK, right now?
Much love,
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
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Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Hello Lubo,
You asked what is not OK right now...
Though there seems to be no self, there is still identification with a "doer." For example, it feels that if I don't "do" my work, it won't get done because there are other things "I'd" like to do, like biking, hiking, etc. Can you help me with this?
Thank you!!
Grace
You asked what is not OK right now...
Though there seems to be no self, there is still identification with a "doer." For example, it feels that if I don't "do" my work, it won't get done because there are other things "I'd" like to do, like biking, hiking, etc. Can you help me with this?
Thank you!!
Grace
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Mmm, I see.
Ok. What is that wich you don't want to do and should do?
Love,
Lubo
Ok. What is that wich you don't want to do and should do?
Love,
Lubo
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The "which that I don't want to do" entails sitting at my desk for long periods of time working on my computer and the "which that I want to do" is often being outside in nature. So it feels like "I" am choosing and if I don't choose certain tasks, they won't get done. Yet, I am aware that Life is unfolding and that technically, there is no "doer." Confusing when it seems like "I" need to make a choice to "work" versus being outdoors. Does this make sense?
Many thanks!
Many thanks!
Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Hi dear Grace,
The answer is hidden in your name.
Lat's find what the word "Grace"
points, are you with me?
Look here :
Where is you in the deep sleep,
there is no breathing, no body experience.
Stay there
and from there notice that the breathing is happening by itself and no one is that?
No one is responsible for breathing to appear right NOW.
breathing is no ones invention?
Stay here this is home, relax
2nd step. meeting the Grace
notice that there is something called conciseness which is presenting this Phenomena ?
Stay "in home" and notice that conciseness is here to serve you,
to fulfilled your desire.
It is your servant -playing for you beautiful pictures of men and women, birds, flowers
...live streaming Right now.
You can ask whatever you want from it, what experience you want to appear?
Notice the pleasure right now, this to be here?
This is Grace.
Ask conciseness," I love to be surprised, I love pleasure. Surprise me, do your best shot, Make something which will brings me big pleasure. I am open and curious."
How do you feel now?
What is it like to find that, this is your personal machine for the fulfillment of desires, of experiences?
you can rest here and trust consciousness to bring you the most incredible experience. something that the mind cannot imagine.
Feel the eroticism of being surprised?
to don't know, to don't need to know...?
to not to identify?
To live in the pleasure This Grace to be here and to serve you, to surprise you?
To wake up from thousands years dream about a persona living real live, going here and there, working and doing?
Much love,
Lubo
The answer is hidden in your name.
Lat's find what the word "Grace"
points, are you with me?
Look here :
1step - With eyes closed, go deeper in you, go under breathing.So it feels like "I" am choosing and if I don't choose certain tasks, they won't get done.
Where is you in the deep sleep,
there is no breathing, no body experience.
Stay there
and from there notice that the breathing is happening by itself and no one is that?
No one is responsible for breathing to appear right NOW.
breathing is no ones invention?
Stay here this is home, relax
2nd step. meeting the Grace
notice that there is something called conciseness which is presenting this Phenomena ?
Stay "in home" and notice that conciseness is here to serve you,
to fulfilled your desire.
It is your servant -playing for you beautiful pictures of men and women, birds, flowers
...live streaming Right now.
You can ask whatever you want from it, what experience you want to appear?
Notice the pleasure right now, this to be here?
This is Grace.
Ask conciseness," I love to be surprised, I love pleasure. Surprise me, do your best shot, Make something which will brings me big pleasure. I am open and curious."
How do you feel now?
What is it like to find that, this is your personal machine for the fulfillment of desires, of experiences?
you can rest here and trust consciousness to bring you the most incredible experience. something that the mind cannot imagine.
Feel the eroticism of being surprised?
to don't know, to don't need to know...?
to not to identify?
To live in the pleasure This Grace to be here and to serve you, to surprise you?
To wake up from thousands years dream about a persona living real live, going here and there, working and doing?
Much love,
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
https://luchanalubo.com/
https://luchanalubo.com/
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Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Thank you, Lubo. This is something I need to absorb for a day or two and then I will be in touch.
Much love to you,
Grace
Much love to you,
Grace
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I am here.
Share whatever is coming.
Love and light,
Lubo
Share whatever is coming.
Love and light,
Lubo
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Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Hello dear Lubo!
I understand and feel the safe place, "Home", where breathing just happens. I get this as a metaphor for Life just Life-ing. What I long for is sustainability. My past conditioning of duty is strong. It very cleverly and incessantly sabotages Life-ing. Before I know it, fear and non-performance creeps in and frustration reigns. The frustration leads to the conflict of doing and non-doing, choosing and not choosing.
I'm far from being a guru, but I've studied enough over the years for now. My focus is on experience. I long to experience FREEDOM continuously.
Thank you for any help you can provide and for all that you have already given!
Much love to you.
Grace
I understand and feel the safe place, "Home", where breathing just happens. I get this as a metaphor for Life just Life-ing. What I long for is sustainability. My past conditioning of duty is strong. It very cleverly and incessantly sabotages Life-ing. Before I know it, fear and non-performance creeps in and frustration reigns. The frustration leads to the conflict of doing and non-doing, choosing and not choosing.
I'm far from being a guru, but I've studied enough over the years for now. My focus is on experience. I long to experience FREEDOM continuously.
Thank you for any help you can provide and for all that you have already given!
Much love to you.
Grace
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Hi dear Grace,
Illusion is that the breathing just happens - this points that there will should be take car this to continue. That there is SOMETHING called breathing
in non-dual seeing - there is breathing
there is only what is. All this beauty to bee free from any THING
What is that which is studied, precisely? head, eyes, body-form, thoughts?
WHAT?
Looking for freedom is to find that there NEVER was any me, in any shape or form or idea. Go for it. I am with you.
Face all fears, what is fear holding you back?
Love and light,
Lubo
Illusion is that the breathing just happens - this points that there will should be take car this to continue. That there is SOMETHING called breathing
in non-dual seeing - there is breathing
no life, no life-ing - illusion is that there is Something which is somethingLife just Life-ing
there is only what is. All this beauty to bee free from any THING
Yes, because there is an idea about someone and this looks like there is cause & effect , that if something is not done someone will sufferMy past conditioning of duty is strong
yes, because of the fear that there is someone. And idea about that moves This Beauty here in that directionThe frustration leads to the conflict of doing and non-doing, choosing and not choosing.
The one who studied - found it? Give it this one to me?I'm far from being a guru, but I've studied enough over the years for now. My focus is on experience. I long to experience FREEDOM continuously.
What is that which is studied, precisely? head, eyes, body-form, thoughts?
WHAT?
Looking for freedom is to find that there NEVER was any me, in any shape or form or idea. Go for it. I am with you.
Face all fears, what is fear holding you back?
Love and light,
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
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Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Hello dear Lubo,
Thank you for you insightful response. I'm processing right now along
the lines of, "What is my fear protecting?" This is a deep question for
me that I'd like to take time to really delve into. So, I'm taking a
break from our dialogue for now. I'll reach out when I'm ready to
resume. Thank you so much.
Much love to you!
Grace
Thank you for you insightful response. I'm processing right now along
the lines of, "What is my fear protecting?" This is a deep question for
me that I'd like to take time to really delve into. So, I'm taking a
break from our dialogue for now. I'll reach out when I'm ready to
resume. Thank you so much.
Much love to you!
Grace
Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Just look behind the fear, what is there?
Ok. I am here for you.
Much love,
Lubo
Ok. I am here for you.
Much love,
Lubo
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Re: AwakeningbyGrace
Well, when I look behind the fear, nothing is there since I cannot locate a "me" or anyone to feel the fear. So this gives me great peace and contentment. And this morning, there was an awareness of Life doing Life, sounds sounding, and awareness awareness-ing, so I am in a good place and feeling much freedom.
Thank you SO much Lubo!
Thank you SO much Lubo!
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