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[thursday123]

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?

That the 'I' just simply doesn't exist in reality. It is a label and that is all. All there really is, is experience/consciousness. There are elements of experience, such as thoughts and sensations, but they are just what they are and don't form part of a separate me. Everything just is and that's it.

What are you looking for at LU?

The guidance to enable the direct experience of truth/no-self. I've been actively trying to see through the sense of self with my own enquiry but think I could do with some help. I'm looking for someone who knows what I'm missing and can guide me to expedite the process, as I sometimes feel as though I'm at a loss with what to do and could really benefit from some basic guidance from someone who understands this.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?

For the guide to have a sense of where I'm at and give me a push in the right direction when needed. I expect to have to do all the heavy lifting, because it is me that ultimately must look and see this for myself. For example, knowing which questions it would be best for me to ask depending on where I'm at would be a big help. I'd also like someone to be able to help me when I'm stuck, and tell me when I'm straying from the correct path, as sometimes when attempting to inquire on my own I feel I can get bogged down in the intellectual side and forget the simplicity of it.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?

I read one of Jed Mckenna's books a couple of years ago after it was suggested to me. I had no ideas/aspirations around spiritual awakening and was sort of thrust into something I hadn't planned on at all. After a few months of chaos everything calmed down and I continued with normal life. Recently I decided I want to continue what was started then. I have read all of Jed's books and have done some of what he calls 'spiritual autolysis' - as I'm sure you know just writing beliefs down and trying to figure out whether or not they're true until there's nothing left of them. I did this for several hours a day for around two months but nothing really happened. I've also done some death awareness.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self?

10

[suma]

Dear Thursday 123


welcome to LU!

My name is nina and I'm here to help you in the exploration of the concept of a separate self.

Is there another name you would like me to address you?

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Are you ready?
Lets see if there is a 'you' as you know it.



All the best

nina

[thursday123]

Hi nina,

Thanks so much for taking the time to help me with this. I really appreciate it.

Is there another name you would like me to address you?

How about Beanstalk? Just the first word that came into my head.

If you haven't already read the disclaimer, please read it now. Here is the link:

http://liberationunleashed.com/disclaimer-2/

Also please read “Liberation Unleashed is not …” in the FAQ’s of LU. Here is the link:

http://liberationunleashed.com/about/faq/#faq-1041

Please learn to use the quote function. When replying to a question, please use the quote function to highlight the question being answered. Instructions are located in the link below:

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/nat ... ?f=4&t=660

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fAToDNh9hQ&app=desktop

Finally you can press 'subscribe to this topic' in the blue bar at the bottom of this page and receive a notification email every time I post here.

I have read/actioned all of this.

Are you ready?
Lets see if there is a 'you' as you know it.

I am ready. Let's go.

Beanstalk

[suma]

Dear Beanstalk,

Great.

Before we start just a few more generalities:

1. Post at least once a day, or every second day.
If you need more time, or are unable to post for several days, just write a quick post on your thread to let me know please.

2. There is no one judging answers given, so please be100% honest in your answers and inquiry.

3. This exploration is based on actual experience. Long-winded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress.
This is not a self-improvement process. There is no ‘self’ to improve.

4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies, rituals, practices, books/reading and so on for the remainder of this investigation.
Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is.
If you have a daily meditation practice, it is fine to continue.


And finally: it is always advisable to save your post in a medium on your device. (Word or whatever)
Sometimes the page is not so stable, one never knows…good to have a copy saved.


So to get started and to become aware of what your expectations about this exploration are,
could you please answer in your own words the following questions:

1) How might life change when you directly experience the truth/no-self ?
2) How would you change then?
3) What will be different?
4) Can you name and specify what is missing presently to see the truth?

Please answer questions individually, remembering to use the quote function to highlight the question being answered.



All the best

nina

[thursday123]

Dear suma

1. Post at least once a day, or every second day.
If you need more time, or are unable to post for several days, just write a quick post on your thread to let me know please.

2. There is no one judging answers given, so please be100% honest in your answers and inquiry.

3. This exploration is based on actual experience. Long-winded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress.
This is not a self-improvement process. There is no ‘self’ to improve.

4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies, rituals, practices, books/reading and so on for the remainder of this investigation.
Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is.
If you have a daily meditation practice, it is fine to continue.


And finally: it is always advisable to save your post in a medium on your device. (Word or whatever)
Sometimes the page is not so stable, one never knows…good to have a copy saved.

okay this is all fine.

1) How might life change when you directly experience the truth/no-self ?

Honestly I have no idea; it’s difficult to predict what such a shift would have on life. When the journey began a couple of years ago I began to experience some mystical happenings at the same time. I know this is not good to focus on here as they are not part of the experience of no-self and can be a hindrance in getting there, but I would be lying if I said otherwise and want to create an honest picture so you know where I’m at. I think it’s possible the further I get to experiencing no-self the more frequent these will become. Overall though I expect things to carry on mostly as normal. The experience of life may be different but I expect it will still be very ordinary. Easier perhaps, with less stress and attempts to control things.

My life situation may change – I can’t imagine still having the motivation to work a horrible 9-5 job anymore because if I don’t exist what would be the point? Also there’d probably be less focus on personal growth because if there’s no-one to grow and nowhere to go then there’d be little point. I may find my true life path, but this is only based on things I’ve read before and I know I must put these aside now.

2) How would you change then?

I think I’d be less bothered about personal relationships, because they’re something that require an awful lot of energy to upkeep, especially for me, and I can’t imagine seeing the point in doing so upon knowing that there’s nothing behind it all. Less concerned with drama and conflict generally. I’d perhaps less bothered about everything generally, but not proud of this because if there’s no me then there’s nothing/no-one to be proud of. I don’t expect to feel better about myself in any way because if no-self is experienced there’s not going to be a me that’s awakened at the end of it.

3) What will be different?

Everything simpler. In reality though nothing will have really changed.

4) Can you name and specify what is missing presently to see the truth?

I’ve been having some trouble seeing that there’s no self in effort, or in applying action (e.g. running a long distance, the act of thinking, or something that is done very deliberately with full conscious awareness). I’ve been thinking if I just let everything do itself wouldn’t I just be an inert lump of matter lying around all day? I can’t imagine I’d be getting up and going to work every day. However these beliefs seems to have fallen away a bit recently. I get now that there is nothing other than the experiences relating to these things (thoughts/feelings/sensations), and the reason everything feels so deliberate is because there is a sense of self which is just a thought/belief and nothing more. However, it doesn’t feel like it’s been fully realised yet and I keep having to go back to it.

I’ve read around half of the gateless gatecrashers book and used all the questions in there as points of investigation. When I do I inevitably see that there is no self there, but for some reason it’s just not been fully realised yet. I’m not sure why but I guess I just haven’t done enough investigation. Sorry for not being more specific.

Beanstalk

[thursday123]

*sorry meant nina not suma

[suma]

Dear Beanstalk,

1) How might life change when you directly experience the truth/no-self ?
Overall though I expect things to carry on mostly as normal. The experience of life may be different but I expect it will still be very ordinary. Easier perhaps, with less stress and attempts to control things.

That’s pretty realistic.

My life situation may change – I can’t imagine still having the motivation to work a horrible 9-5 job anymore because if I don’t exist what would be the point?

It’s not that you are going to die, at least not literally. All that doesn’t exist is the false perception of the I,
however as long as there is life in the body you’ll be pretty much there and exist.
There are also still many many beliefs that will still need to be looked at after ‘gating’, as not all illusions are seen through in one foul swoop.
Seeing through the illusion of a separate self is an important first step in the greater journey of awakening to reality.
It’s a necessary step, but is by no means the end of the ride.

Also there’d probably be less focus on personal growth because if there’s no-one to grow and nowhere to go then there’d be little point.
I may find my true life path, but this is only based on things I’ve read before and I know I must put these aside now.

OK, good you see that.

2) How would you change then?

I think I’d be less bothered about personal relationships, because they’re something that require an awful lot of energy to upkeep, especially for me, and I can’t imagine seeing the point in doing so upon knowing that there’s nothing behind it all. Less concerned with drama and conflict generally. I’d perhaps less bothered about everything generally, but not proud of this because if there’s no me then there’s nothing/no-one to be proud of.
I don’t expect to feel better about myself in any way because if no-self is experienced there’s not going to be a me that’s awakened at the end of it.

Ok, you might find out by yourself.

3) What will be different?

Everything simpler. In reality though nothing will have really changed.

Yes, it cannot be said for sure.

4) Can you name and specify what is missing presently to see the truth?

I’ve been having some trouble seeing that there’s no self in effort, or in applying action (e.g. running a long distance, the act of thinking, or something that is done very deliberately with full conscious awareness).
I’ve been thinking if I just let everything do itself wouldn’t I just be an inert lump of matter lying around all day? I can’t imagine I’d be getting up and going to work every day. However these beliefs seems to have fallen away a bit recently. I get now that there is nothing other than the experiences relating to these things (thoughts/feelings/sensations), and the reason everything feels so deliberate is because there is a sense of self which is just a thought/belief and nothing more. However, it doesn’t feel like it’s been fully realised yet and I keep having to go back to it.

Very good start! So the grip of believing your thoughts has already got loose a little bit.

I’ve read around half of the gateless gatecrashers book and used all the questions in there as points of investigation. When I do I inevitably see that there is no self there, but for some reason it’s just not been fully realised yet. I’m not sure why but I guess I just haven’t done enough investigation. Sorry for not being more specific.

It’s good to have an ‚outside agency’ to look at the whole stuff about investigation.
Otherwise the whole thing can end up in a kind of tail-chasing exercise.
The mind and the thought patterns try all possible ways just to stay in place.

So to get started and to get more in touch with direct experience -
which is just beside thoughts - here’s a little exercise:

Sit quietly and relax, take your time just looking at what is in front of you for awhile.
Observe how the mind is dividing and labelling every thing into objects and is embellishing
them with stories about what they are. Give it some time.
Then, stop watching the objects as labelled objects.
Just look at the seeing itself.
Observe the pure process of seeing.
This is direct experience (DE).

Please report back how you go.

All the best

nina

[thursday123]

Nina,

Thanks for the feedback regarding my expectations. I had a go at the exercise. Here is what happened:

Sit quietly and relax, take your time just looking at what is in front of you for awhile.
Observe how the mind is dividing and labelling every thing into objects and is embellishing
them with stories about what they are. Give it some time.

This was easy enough. It was like as soon as I began to observe what was in front of me my mind automatically started labelling everything and creating stories about things, like it was jumping out and trying to impose meaning on everything.

Then, stop watching the objects as labelled objects.
Just look at the seeing itself.
Observe the pure process of seeing.
This is direct experience (DE).

This was really difficult. It felt like a real struggle, like the harder I tried to stop labelling the more my mind wouldn't let go. If I was looking at a t-shirt, I couldn't stop my mind from labelling it as such. I had fleeting glimpses of (what I think was) direct experience, where there was a sense of emptiness and everything just being 'as it was', but this experience was quickly lost as soon as I tried to maintain it. It seemed like I was seeing the emptiness in myself rather than in things external, like there was seeing but no-one doing it, just a big empty void where seeing was happening.

Hope this is thorough enough - please let me know if not.

Beanstalk

[suma]

Dear Beanstalk

This was really difficult. It felt like a real struggle, like the harder I tried to stop labelling the more my mind wouldn't let go. If I was looking at a t-shirt, I couldn't stop my mind from labelling it as such. I had fleeting glimpses of (what I think was) direct experience, where there was a sense of emptiness and everything just being 'as it was', but this experience was quickly lost as soon as I tried to maintain it. It seemed like I was seeing the emptiness in myself rather than in things external, like there was seeing but no-one doing it, just a big empty void where seeing was happening.

Very nice. Yes, that’s the place we try to focus on. It’s like a muscle; the more you rest in it the more it is noticed.
At a certain point it’ll be seen just as the natural place and the labelling becomes rather alien.

To look more directly how the labelling process happens, here is another exercise:

You can practice it easily as much as possible during the day.

Brake down daily activities simply into

colour/image,
sound,
smell,
taste,
sensation,
thought.

So for example, when having breakfast, become aware of:

Seeing a cup, simply= image/colour
Hearing the spoon stirring the coffee, simply = sound
Smelling coffee, simply = smell
Tasting the coffee, simply = taste
Feeling the warmth of the coffee cup, simply = sensation
Thought about drinking the coffee, simply = thought

Just break down daily activities into these categories
(which are all actual/direct experience).

Please report back how you go and give some examples according to the one above.

Heartily greetings

nina

[thursday123]

Nina,

Brake down daily activities simply into

colour/image,
sound,
smell,
taste,
sensation,
thought.

I enjoyed this one. Super simple. I noticed that everything could be categorised into these, there was nothing outside of experience, and therefore no space in which an actual me could exist, and no need for it to anyway because it was all just happening of its own accord. All just different aspects of experience happening. For example when getting a haircut there was the sensation of the scissors as they cut my hair and my body resting on the seat, the sound of the hairdryers, the image of myself in the mirror and everything else I could see, and thoughts about whether the barber was doing a good job. On the walk home there was the sensation of feet on the pavement, the sound of traffic, the smell of the fresh outdoor air, the taste of chewing gum, and more thoughts just occurring. Nothing else other than experience happening, and of course my mind putting labels on everything as I went. But they're just more thoughts. I had brief glimpses where 'me' thoughts kind of took a back seat and it felt as though everything that was being experienced was all there was, and that the thing I think of as me is just another part of that experience, something else happening inside of it. But again these were short-lived and disappeared as soon as I tried to grasp onto them.

I started to think again about effort and where that fitted into this, and I thought once more what is there other than the experiences relating to effort? Sensations of the legs as they moved in front of one another but what behind that? Nothing. A sense of deliberateness also, but that's just a sense/thought and what's behind that? Nothing again. What would be there without that sense? Nothing probably, no me actually putting the effort in, nothing to back it up. I thought what else could there be other than experience?

I will continue to do this exercise often as it's been very helpful.

Thanks,
Beanstalk

[suma]

Dear Beanstalk,

thank you for this lovely post.
You have a very good grasp already.

To specify it a bit more precisely please give me an example where you break down
one experience into the separate sense doors.

Please also notice here that thoughts are one of the sense perceptions.

colour/image,
sound,
smell,
taste,
sensation,
thought

As in the example of having breakfast:

- Seeing a cup, simply= image/colour
- Smelling coffee, simply = smell
- Feeling the warmth of the coffee cup, simply = sensation
- Tasting the coffee, simply = taste
- Hearing the spoon stirring the coffee, simply = sound
- Thought about drinking the coffee, simply = thought

The meaning of this exercise is to have a good grasp on actual experience (AE).
It is to know how to look at AE and notice how thoughts overlay AE with stories.

It can be ‘practiced’ best during daily routines.
Here is another example of washing hands:

Feeling of water; warm or cold – sensation
Tactile impressions of hands touching -sensation
Scent of soap - smell
Vision of tiles or the tap – image/colour
Hearing of flowing water - sound
Thought about hands –thought


All the best

nina

[thursday123]

Nina

To specify it a bit more precisely please give me an example where you break down
one experience into the separate sense doors.

Okay here's a more specific example - eating my dinner:
-holding the burger/chips - sensation
-tasting the food - taste
-seeing the food - image/colour
-smelling it - smell
-hearing the biting/chewing of it - sound
-thinking it would be more enjoyable if warmer - thought

It was easy to categorise the experiences, but I noticed my mind automatically trying to add more detail. Obviously the objects were labelled - burger, chips, plate. There were also adjectives that popped into mind - I couldn't help but think the chips felt hard and rough, and the chewing sounded squelchy for example (sorry for disgusting image!). My mind felt eager to latch onto the perceptions and add context. No effort was required on my part for this to happen.

Beanstalk

[suma]

Dear Beanstalk

It was easy to categorise the experiences, but I noticed my mind automatically trying to add more detail. Obviously the objects were labelled - burger, chips, plate. There were also adjectives that popped into mind - I couldn't help but think the chips felt hard and rough, and the chewing sounded squelchy for example (sorry for disgusting image!). My mind felt eager to latch onto the perceptions and add context. No effort was required on my part for this to happen.

This is really good to see that. You have a good grasp on direct experience.
So let’s have a closer look at thought now.
Let's see how they actually work and whehter there is any meaning in what they are telling.

Please find some time to sit quietly for about 30 minutes and notice the arising thoughts.
Just let them appear as they appear.
Try your best to COMPLETELY ignore what they are saying and just notice how they appear
without you doing anything at all.

>Where are they coming from and going to?

>Did you do anything to make a particular thought or thoughts appear?

>Could you have done anything to make a different thought appear at that exact moment instead?

>Can you predict your next thought?

>Can you select from a range of thoughts to have only pleasant thoughts?

>Can you choose not to have painful, negative or fearful thoughts?

>Can you pick and choose any kind of thought?

>Is it possible to prevent a thought from appearing?

>It seems that thought has some logical ordered appearance, but look carefully and
just notice if there is an organised sequence?

>Or is that just another thought that says ‘these thoughts are in sequence’ or “they
take content from previous thought”, or that ‘one thought follows another thought’?


Please answer the questions one by one. ( :


All the best

nina

[thursday123]

Nina,

>Where are they coming from and going to?

Coming from nowhere, disappearing into nothing as if they never existed.

>Did you do anything to make a particular thought or thoughts appear?

No. no effort was needed to make thoughts appear. I’ve struggled with this before when considering that, although thoughts just happen on their own anyway, what about when the act of thinking is carried out? When I deliberately think hard about something? Because then different kinds of thoughts appear – they are usually more detailed and well-formed. So is there a me making those thoughts appear? No. There are the sensations of thinking – a kind of contraction in the head, followed by certain kinds of thoughts, which is just another pattern and nothing more. The thoughts still come from nowhere, then disappear. Even though there appears to be a me that is thinking I cannot be creating the thoughts because they just appear from nowhere.

>Could you have done anything to make a different thought appear at that exact moment instead?

No. what appears is just what appears. Who would be the me that could make a thought appear at that exact moment? I don’t get to choose because there’s no-one there to choose.

>Can you predict your next thought?

No because the only way I could do that is with thought and by then the thought has already occurred. What is there to comprehend thought other than more thought? What is there to comprehend anything with other than thought, something which I have no control over?

>Can you select from a range of thoughts to have only pleasant thoughts?

Once a negative thought has occurred I can try to override it with a positive one, but I can’t stop the negative thoughts from occurring, they are automatic. But who’s even ‘trying to override it?’. If you try to follow that to its root what’s there? Nothing, just another thought saying the previous thought needs to be overridden. And where does that thought come from? Nowhere, I can’t choose to have it, so there can’t be a me making the decision to override the thought. Thoughts upon thoughts upon thoughts and nothing behind them.

>Can you choose not to have painful, negative or fearful thoughts?

No, they are automatic. Again I can try to have more positive thoughts, and over time this may become habitual and thus less negative thoughts may occur, but in the moment I cannot stop myself from having them.

>Can you pick and choose any kind of thought?

It appears so, but no. The closest I can get is thinking ‘I am going to think this now’, then thinking the thing I just said I was going to think. But where did the initial thought come from? Nowhere. If you follow any thought it always leads to nowhere, because there’s nowhere for it to lead to, no-one to think it.

>Is it possible to prevent a thought from appearing?

No. I can’t prevent the initial thought from happening because by trying to prevent it I am already thinking about it. As soon as I try I think ‘a thought about what?’ and then it occurs and it’s too late. I can try to prevent it from continuing to appear however by distracting myself and focusing on something else.

>It seems that thought has some logical ordered appearance, but look carefully and
just notice if there is an organised sequence?

Thoughts jump from one thing to another at their own whim. Sometimes thoughts ask a question and the next thought is a possible answer to that question, though, so that could be a sequence, or rather a pattern. But before long (and I mean within seconds) another random thought has appeared about something different.

>Or is that just another thought that says ‘these thoughts are in sequence’ or “they
take content from previous thought”, or that ‘one thought follows another thought’?

I suppose it has to be, because what else could it be? The only way to ‘verify’ anything, including thought, is with more thought, there’s no outside authority which can confirm whether a thought is true, and therefore I cannot trust them. But there’s something inside me that is saying, ‘but how can I deny that thoughts follow other thoughts? It seems so obvious!’, but then that’s just another thought too, and so is the realisation that it is just a thought, and so on. To say they’re in sequence is just because my mind has imposed a meaning upon them that only exists as thought itself. However, there are clear patterns that occur, aren’t there? For example if I think about a mirror, there’s a good chance my next thought will also be about a mirror. It’s not to say they are related, just that that’s what often happens. Obviously I’m using thought to come to that conclusion, as well as memory which is also just thought and not something I can fully trust, but it certainly seems to be the case. It all just seems too obvious to deny. If thoughts are not in sequence and don’t follow one another, then why is it that they so often seem to? And although one may not have taken its content from the other, I can’t deny that some thoughts might be about the same thing, though, can I? And is saying that thoughts don’t follow one another the same as saying they don’t come after one another? It seems ridiculous to say that one thought doesn’t come after the next, even if they aren’t related. Though I suppose that any line I draw between two thoughts that seem to follow one another must be arbitrary, meaning there’s no actual separation between ‘different’ thoughts, but just thought occurring, and so they can’t really follow one another. Sorry for the long answer here, but I struggled with this one.

Beanstalk

[suma]

Dear Beanstalk,

thank you very much for these well pondered insights about thought.
You have a beautifully clear sight on them.

However, there are clear patterns that occur, aren’t there? For example if I think about a mirror, there’s a good chance my next thought will also be about a mirror.
It’s not to say they are related, just that that’s what often happens. Obviously I’m using thought to come to that conclusion, as well as memory which is also just thought and not something I can fully trust, but it certainly seems to be the case. It all just seems too obvious to deny. If thoughts are not in sequence and don’t follow one another, then why is it that they so often seem to?
And although one may not have taken its content from the other, I can’t deny that some thoughts might be about the same thing, though, can I?
And is saying that thoughts don’t follow one another the same as saying they don’t come after one another? It seems ridiculous to say that one thought doesn’t come after the next,
even if they aren’t related. Though I suppose that any line I draw between two thoughts that seem to follow one another must be arbitrary, meaning there’s no actual separation between ‘different’ thoughts, but just thought occurring, and so they can’t really follow one another. Sorry for the long answer here, but I struggled with this one.

The most important thing here is to notice the difference between what thought says about reality,
and how you find reality to actually be.
So the very first thing you have to notice is whether you are the author of thoughts,
or whether ANYTHING is authoring thoughts.
The second thing you need to notice is whether thought is aware of what it says, or not.

Please also notice the difference between thought and thought content.
Thought itself is something fleeting like the sound of traffic outside or the tweeting of birds.
But is there someone listening and believing in the content thought is presenting?
Or is it just something like: Oh, there’s thought, but where is the thinker?


Here is another exercise to look even closer at thought,
or better at the gaps that may occur between thoughts:

To begin please sit for at least 10-15 minutes quietly somewhere, several times throughout your day.
Close your eyes and just notice thoughts.
Don’t engage with any thought, just notice them.

1. Notice the current thought that is present.
Like when you sit observing the body, a thought might arise “this is my feet” or “here is a pain”
or “my breathing is too quick” or “I am bored with this exercise”
or “I have better things to do” or any sorts of thoughts.

2. This thought will pass and another thought will come.
So just observe this thought passing.

3. Then wait for the next thought to come.

4. When the next thought is present, just notice it, and see how it passes.

5. Then wait for the next thought to come.

6. Repeat #4 and #5 many-many times.

Between the 2 thoughts there is a gap.
It can be very short or subtle, just a second or a few seconds before the next thought come in.

This is how to look at thoughts:

Looking how they come and go, and observing the short gap between them.
Noticing how the current thought is passing.
And waiting for the next thought to come.

Please do the following exercise then throughout your waking day:

try to observe the gap between thoughts as often as possible.
It can be done by noticing that ‘thinking’ is happening right now,
then stop and just simply wait for the next thought to come.
In the ‘waiting’ there is a gap between two thoughts.

Let me know how you go.

Whishing you all the best
nina