Old man shouts at himself

[OldGuy]

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
I ‘believe’ that I have no permanent self, that my brain concocts a history and a narrative to make it seem like I do, but I fully recognise that I am not the same man as I used to be. Of course, this constructed self is useful in a lot of mundane situations, but I recognise it as a ‘costume’ that I can put on.

What are you looking for at LU?
Making the realisation of no-self more ‘real’. I want to get to the place before words come and start naming things. I want to make it more experiential. I can very easily talk myself into thinking I’m having an experience without actually having it.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
‘A finger pointing at the moon’ as they say. I’d like to engage with another human who can ask the questions I need to consider. It’s very hard to do this without religious things getting mixed up with it. I would hope that I could be guided to a more grounded realisation of being awake.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I am well read. I have explored many spiritual practices, most recently zen, but I am not attached to any of them deeply. I actually think the idea of ‘seeking’ is a problem. I am sure that I am already all I seek but it’s a bit like seeing it through a fog.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 11

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[Anastacia42]

Good morning!

My name is Stacy and I can be your guide, if you would like.

Did your reading include Angelo Dillulo's, Awake: It's Your Turn? I recommend that & our own Gateless Gatecrashers, which you can download here from Resources.

One thing that is helpful is to come to this forum
& post every day. Sometimes the site goes down. It will be back. Just come back later.

Yes, if once in a while you must post later, please post a note telling me when you will return.

If you haven't already read the disclaimer, please read it now and just confirm to me that you have read it. Here is the link.

http://liberationunleashed.com/disclaimer-2/

Also please read “Liberation Unleashed is not …” in the FAQ’s of LU. Here is the link.

http://liberationunleashed.com/about/faq/#faq-1041

Some housekeeping guidelines:

1. Post at least once a day, or every second day. If you need more time, or are unable to post for several days, just write a quick post on your thread to let me know please.

2. There is no one judging answers given, so please be 100% honest in your answers and inquiry.

3. This exploration is based on actual experience (AE) - smell, taste, sound, sensation, color and observed thoughts. Long-winded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress. This is not a self-improvement process. There is no ‘self’ to improve.

4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies, rituals, practices, books/reading and so on for the remainder of this investigation. Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is. If you have a daily meditation practice, it is fine to continue that but is not necessary for this exploration.

Technology is not perfect and sometimes there is a glitch which can wipe out your responses. It is advisable that you copy and paste questions asked into Word, answer them there and then copy and paste them to your thread. Always save a copy of what you have done, it will save time in the long run!

To begin with, so that we both become aware of what your expectations are about this exploration. In your own words (not from actual experience, but just honest answers), could you please answer the 4 following questions:

How will life change?
How will you change?
What will be different?
What is missing?

Throughout this exploration I would like you to answer all questions that I have written in blue text. Please answer all questions even if I miss using the blue text.

Please answer questions individually, remembering to use the quote function to highlight the question being answered.

Below is a link to the video with instructions on using the Quote Function. Please watch it. Use the PREVIEW button to make sure your text looks right before you hit "SUBMIT."

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660

What would you like for me to call you? What time zone are you in, please?


Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Thursday 19th of March
MEETING WITH ILONA TODAY
 
Hello

The Shift in Perception Simplified

At the next Zoom meeting, I will share something that can help you see what this shift in perception actually is.

I’ve been exploring this with my private clients, and now I’d like to open it to you as well, and to those who follow my YouTube channel. It is very simple and easy to see visually. When it clicks, it becomes clear why working on problems doesn’t bring lasting peace, and how the shift happens in where you are looking from.

There is nothing mysterious about it. It is practical, direct, and available right here.

You are warmly invited to join the meeting. And if something comes up for you, you are welcome to bring your questions.


Seeing Through The Self Illusion

19th of March
90 min long

3 pm London
4 pm Paris
8 am San Francisco
11 am New York

Link to all monthly Zoom Meetings

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All group meetings are free. Just come.

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With love,

Ilona

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