Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

[BLovingJoy]

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this? Who we think we are as human beings is entirely based on where we were born, our body/dna, the experiences had, and a collection of all our memories, thoughts, patterns, habits, and knowledge. From my studying, but not knowing, this is all false and not real. The goal of LU is to help people see past this illusion.

What are you looking for at LU? To know the truth. A coach/guide to help me see through the illusion. Find a community of like-minded people who are kind, supportive and help others see what is causing suffering. Looking for help from others.

What do you expect from a guided conversation? A coach/guide to help me see through the illusion. Establish friendship and trust. To see past this illusion, to reduce unwarranted/unnecessary suffering. To help me be more loving, joyful, and happy in life. Help get out of my head to be better to myself and others.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry? Relatively new to this. History of Transcendtal Meditaiton (TM), MBSR (Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction), Shamanic/Native American Meditation, Jeffrey Martin/45 Days, Awakening Explorers Podcast (Jonathan and Brian). Right now, practice awareness, mindfulness and breath meditation primarily.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 11

[Anastacia42]

Good morning,

Sounds good. Of the methods you mentioned, I'm familiar with Jeffrey Martin & maybe Awakening Explorers.

My name is Stacy and I can be your guide, if you would like.

One thing that is helpful is to come to this forum
& post every day. Sometimes the site goes down. It will be back. Just come back later.

Yes, if once in a while you must post later, please post a note telling me when you will return.

If you haven't already read the disclaimer, please read it now and just confirm to me that you have read it. Here is the link.

http://liberationunleashed.com/disclaimer-2/

Also please read “Liberation Unleashed is not …” in the FAQ’s of LU. Here is the link.

http://liberationunleashed.com/about/faq/#faq-1041

Some housekeeping guidelines:

1. Post at least once a day, or every second day. If you need more time, or are unable to post for several days, just write a quick post on your thread to let me know please.

2. There is no one judging answers given, so please be 100% honest in your answers and inquiry.

3. This exploration is based on actual experience (AE) - smell, taste, sound, sensation, color and observed thoughts. Long-winded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress. This is not a self-improvement process. There is no ‘self’ to improve.

4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies, rituals, practices, books/reading and so on for the remainder of this investigation. Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is. If you have a daily meditation practice, it is fine to continue that but is not necessary for this exploration.

Technology is not perfect and sometimes there is a glitch which can wipe out your responses. It is advisable that you copy and paste questions asked into Word, answer them there and then copy and paste them to your thread. Always save a copy of what you have done, it will save time in the long run!

To begin with, so that we both become aware of what your expectations are about this exploration. In your own words (not from actual experience, but just honest answers), could you please answer the 4 following questions:

How will life change?
How will you change?
What will be different?
What is missing?

Throughout this exploration I would like you to answer all questions that I have written in blue text. Please answer all questions even if I miss using the blue text.

Please answer questions individually, remembering to use the quote function to highlight the question being answered.

Below is a link to the video with instructions on using the Quote Function. Please watch it. Use the PREVIEW button to make sure your text looks right before you hit "SUBMIT."

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660

What would you like for me to call you? What time zone are you in, please?


Loving,

[BLovingJoy]

Hey Stacy,

You can call me Blake. I am in UTC−05:00.

Gratitude showing up. Love showing up. Excitement showing up. Thank you.

I am currently getting ready to travel (for work) tomorrow, and will be back late Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2025.

Based on timing, I'm planning to start the Liberation Unleased process the morning of Saturday, Nov. 1, 2025. I will start doing the daily messaging, reflections, and these assignments.

Do you prefer me to use the forum, or is email, zoom call, or facebook messaging okay? What have you seen be the most effective? Or is it my choice? Do you have a preference?

Gratitude. Thanks for volunteering and your time. Looking forward to the process, being challenged, and letting go of my false self.

-Blake

[BLovingJoy]

Hey Stacy,

If you want me to get started, just say go, and I'll make time. If the process is better when one is dealing with travel/stress, I'm fine starting.

Just let me know if I should start or wait to start on Nov 1.

Appreciation showing up.

-Blake

[Anastacia42]

Hi Blake,

Nov 1 is fine.

We do our conversation on this forum. I may start doing soon me video guiding,, but I'll want to be paid for that.

Relaxation is required to see there's no "self "

First, you'll answer the 4 questions in blue from my first post.

See you next time you post.

Loving

[BLovingJoy]

Thanks Stacy. Touch base on Nov 1

[BLovingJoy]

Hey Stacy,

Here are my responses:

How will life change?

No attachment to thoughts as my identity. No attachments to sensations or emotions as my identity. Life will just be living and experiencing. Life will just be letting go and being.

How will you change?

The attachment to my false self will be gone. I will be able to experience life more without attachment to the false identity. The character will still be there with the conditioned past, habits, family, work and career. However, I will no longer identify with this character, as who I am.

What will be different?

More love and freedom in life. Happiness, love, and joy will show up more in direct experience, due to not attaching to false self. Sensations, feelings, desires, judgements will still show up, but I won’t identify with them as who I am.

What is missing?

Nothing is missing, the opposite is true. It's more like what do I need to let go and get rid of.

[Anastacia42]

Hi John,

I have written to one of the admins to change your name and delete those posts. The posts don't really matter, but we can do that.

Your answers to the questions are fairly reasonable. I love the last one. You are exactly right. It is more a matter of letting go of things that are not true.

Now what comes up when reading that there is no separate self, never has been, and never will be? That the whole thing was a made up story that we believed.


Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Please quote the questions. rather than the answers.

You are doing it correctly except that you've just got it backwards.

Thanks,

[BLovingJoy]

Now what comes up when reading that there is no separate self, never has been, and never will be? That the whole thing was a made up story that we believed.

When at peace, nothing comes up. A sigh of relief....

When physical or emotional stress shows up, sensations & thoughts of ego/defensiveness/blaming/judgement comes up. Sometimes I can dis-identify with them, but othertimes I am not able to do that, and get pulled into them.

[Anastacia42]

Okay. Good.


Colored Socks

There is a big difference between knowing that there is nothing to give up and seeing that there is nothing to give up.

Here is an example to illustrate the difference:

If I ask you what color socks you are wearing right now you have two ways to come up with an answer:

• You can think about it, you can think back to this morning and try to remember putting your socks on, and you can probably tell me what color you think they are.

• Alternatively, you can take a quick look at your socks and tell me what color they actually are!

Hopefully you would agree that you can only be 100% certain by looking.

For the purpose of seeing this "no self" idea, it is very important that you are clear about this difference.

Knowing is about knowledge which is all in the mind and we are not interested in that

We are only interested in looking at and seeing what is actually going on in your present moment-to-moment experience. We are only interested in your Direct Experience in the moment..

Direct or Actual Experience is

Seeing
Hearing
Feeling (Sensation, not emotion. Emotion is Sensation plus made-up thoughts & labels)
Tasting
Smelling
Thoughts Arising (but not their content)

Please let me know if you are clear about this or if you would like any further clarification.


Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Your name change will be tomorrow.

[BLovingJoy]

Direct or Actual Experience is

Seeing
Hearing
Feeling (Sensation, not emotion. Emotion is Sensation plus made-up thoughts & labels)
Tasting
Smelling
Thoughts Arising (but not their content)

Please let me know if you are clear about this or if you would like any further clarification.

Yes, I am clear on this. Thank you. I am able to spot these in awareness and not be pulled, as long as I'm not deeply stressed/anxious.

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

Please..

Quote the question or part of the question you're replying to. (not your answer)

Reply in normal black type.

You don't use blue. I do. For new questions.

Can you please do that?

Thank you,

[Anastacia42]

Okay, hopefully you'll get the marking straight.

I read these on my phone and it helps a lot. Later we will have some questions for you to answer and other guides will read them so it will help them, too.

Now what comes up when reading that there is no separate self, never has been, and never will be? That the whole thing was a made up story that we believed.

Loving,