LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
Disidentifying from the mind which is taken to be me.
What are you looking for at LU?
I am 70 years old and been searching for answers it seems all my life . My first memories are being out in a feild (around 3 years old) and wondering where I came from, what am I doing here and being so afraid that I felt stabbing in my uterus.I've always found this place horrible ..especially what happens to animals . My body is failing me so it brings up all sorts of fears and pain..especially with my son..lots there concerning my son,also fear of death itself.
What do you expect from a guided conversation?
I am hoping to have someone who is more advanced on this path than myself to point me in the right direction or maybe make me aware when I have fallen into the trap of mind.I am alone in my surroundings who is into nonduality or spirituality for that matter so it would be good to have regular contact with like minded people.I am pretty alone period, live in the country far from everything.
What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I was reading Edgar Cayce at 12 years old and have always been interested in what wasn't visible to the eye.Having had major trauma and a very hard life I was always seeking for relief from my inner sufferring.I took transadental meditation around 19 years old and was practicing on and off and was mostly looking for love outside me which brought me through abusif relation after abusif relation.Books started coming my way about the present moment etc.In my 30's when going to Siddha Yoga I met a women who worked with me through a process called ATC"art of transformation by conscientness".At this point I was still, unconsciencely not really doind this to awaken but to make my life better and fulfill my desires in the outer world. Next came "A course in miracles" which brought this awareness of ego but still ,too much in the mind trying .Next I found Regina dawn Akers which brought an awreness of being guided . Inquiry seems to have shifted in the past months in the sense that before it was I that inquired and since my last intensive with another nondual teacher it seems like inquiry is doing me...if that makes any sense...hard to explain...being taken on fast forward example after example of how to get underneath the story to what is really there .
On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 10
The truth will set you free
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Re: The truth will set you free
Good morning
My name is Stacy and I can be your guide, if you would like. I'm 65.
I also did ACIM. I have never met anyone who woke up with that method.
One thing that is helpful is to come to this forum
& post every day. Sometimes the site goes down. It will be back. Just come back later.
Yes, if once in a while you must post later, please post a note telling me when you will return.
If you haven't already read the disclaimer, please read it now and just confirm to me that you have read it. Here is the link.
http://liberationunleashed.com/disclaimer-2/
Also please read “Liberation Unleashed is not …” in the FAQ’s of LU. Here is the link.
http://liberationunleashed.com/about/faq/#faq-1041
Some housekeeping guidelines:
1. Post at least once a day, or every second day. If you need more time, or are unable to post for several days, just write a quick post on your thread to let me know please.
2. There is no one judging answers given, so please be 100% honest in your answers and inquiry.
3. This exploration is based on actual experience (AE) - smell, taste, sound, sensation, color and observed thoughts. Long-winded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress. This is not a self-improvement process. There is no ‘self’ to improve.
4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies, rituals, practices, books/reading and so on for the remainder of this investigation. Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is. If you have a daily meditation practice, it is fine to continue that but is not necessary for this exploration.
Technology is not perfect and sometimes there is a glitch which can wipe out your responses. It is advisable that you copy and paste questions asked into Word, answer them there and then copy and paste them to your thread. Always save a copy of what you have done, it will save time in the long run!
To begin with, so that we both become aware of what your expectations are about this exploration. In your own words (not from actual experience, but just honest answers), could you please answer the 4 following questions:
How will life change?
How will you change?
What will be different?
What is missing?
Throughout this exploration I would like you to answer all questions that I have written in blue text. Please answer all questions even if I miss using the blue text.
Please answer questions individually, remembering to use the quote function to highlight the question being answered.
Below is a link to the video with instructions on using the Quote Function. Please watch it. Use the PREVIEW button to make sure your text looks right before you hit "SUBMIT."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660
What would you like for me to call you? What time zone are you in, please?
Loving,
My name is Stacy and I can be your guide, if you would like. I'm 65.
I also did ACIM. I have never met anyone who woke up with that method.
One thing that is helpful is to come to this forum
& post every day. Sometimes the site goes down. It will be back. Just come back later.
Yes, if once in a while you must post later, please post a note telling me when you will return.
If you haven't already read the disclaimer, please read it now and just confirm to me that you have read it. Here is the link.
http://liberationunleashed.com/disclaimer-2/
Also please read “Liberation Unleashed is not …” in the FAQ’s of LU. Here is the link.
http://liberationunleashed.com/about/faq/#faq-1041
Some housekeeping guidelines:
1. Post at least once a day, or every second day. If you need more time, or are unable to post for several days, just write a quick post on your thread to let me know please.
2. There is no one judging answers given, so please be 100% honest in your answers and inquiry.
3. This exploration is based on actual experience (AE) - smell, taste, sound, sensation, color and observed thoughts. Long-winded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress. This is not a self-improvement process. There is no ‘self’ to improve.
4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies, rituals, practices, books/reading and so on for the remainder of this investigation. Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is. If you have a daily meditation practice, it is fine to continue that but is not necessary for this exploration.
Technology is not perfect and sometimes there is a glitch which can wipe out your responses. It is advisable that you copy and paste questions asked into Word, answer them there and then copy and paste them to your thread. Always save a copy of what you have done, it will save time in the long run!
To begin with, so that we both become aware of what your expectations are about this exploration. In your own words (not from actual experience, but just honest answers), could you please answer the 4 following questions:
How will life change?
How will you change?
What will be different?
What is missing?
Throughout this exploration I would like you to answer all questions that I have written in blue text. Please answer all questions even if I miss using the blue text.
Please answer questions individually, remembering to use the quote function to highlight the question being answered.
Below is a link to the video with instructions on using the Quote Function. Please watch it. Use the PREVIEW button to make sure your text looks right before you hit "SUBMIT."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660
What would you like for me to call you? What time zone are you in, please?
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
- Anastacia42
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Re: The truth will set you free
This is how to LOOK for no self in the exercises - we call them "pointers' - that we will be doing here:
Colored Socks
There is a big difference between knowing that there is nothing to give up and seeing that there is nothing to give up.
Here is an example to illustrate the difference:
If I ask you what color socks you are wearing right now you have two ways to come up with an answer:
• You can think about it, you can think back to this morning and try to remember putting your socks on, and you can probably tell me what color you think they are.
• Alternatively, you can take a quick look at your socks and tell me what color they actually are!
Hopefully you would agree that you can only be 100% certain by looking.
For the purpose of seeing this "no self" idea, it is very important that you are clear about this difference.
Knowing is about knowledge which is all in the mind and we are not interested in that
We are only interested in looking at and seeing what is actually going on in your present moment-to-moment experience. We are only interested in your Direct Experience in the moment..
Direct or Actual Experience is
Seeing
Hearing
Feeling (Sensation, not emotion. Emotion is Sensation plus made-up thoughts & labels)
Tasting
Smelling
Thoughts Arising (but not their content)
Please let me know if you are clear about this or if you would like any further clarification.
Next, please listen to the Introduction & to Zooming in on Death.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ksba3zhi9uuz ... hsk1a?dl=0
Loving,
Colored Socks
There is a big difference between knowing that there is nothing to give up and seeing that there is nothing to give up.
Here is an example to illustrate the difference:
If I ask you what color socks you are wearing right now you have two ways to come up with an answer:
• You can think about it, you can think back to this morning and try to remember putting your socks on, and you can probably tell me what color you think they are.
• Alternatively, you can take a quick look at your socks and tell me what color they actually are!
Hopefully you would agree that you can only be 100% certain by looking.
For the purpose of seeing this "no self" idea, it is very important that you are clear about this difference.
Knowing is about knowledge which is all in the mind and we are not interested in that
We are only interested in looking at and seeing what is actually going on in your present moment-to-moment experience. We are only interested in your Direct Experience in the moment..
Direct or Actual Experience is
Seeing
Hearing
Feeling (Sensation, not emotion. Emotion is Sensation plus made-up thoughts & labels)
Tasting
Smelling
Thoughts Arising (but not their content)
Please let me know if you are clear about this or if you would like any further clarification.
Next, please listen to the Introduction & to Zooming in on Death.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ksba3zhi9uuz ... hsk1a?dl=0
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Re: The truth will set you free
Do you still want to be guided here or are you ghosting the thread?
Here is something to watch, particularly at about 57 minutes.
https://youtu.be/517Rggo0qtE?si=xFmpfKqLTFsGs2pB
Loving,
Here is something to watch, particularly at about 57 minutes.
https://youtu.be/517Rggo0qtE?si=xFmpfKqLTFsGs2pB
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
Re: The truth will set you free
So sorry...not ghosting..just lost in the technologie..OMG! I think I'm finally on,had to write to admin because nothing was working..not username or password..I get on this machine and I sweat it makes me so nervous . I've written so many responses only to be told that I have to log on ..anyway..I hope this one reaches you.
How will life change. When you talk of life is it the world outside...it won't change.
How will you change. I don't know..not at all except less prisoner of my fearful mind who feels in danger if I let go .
What will be different.Nothing really in this life of perpetual change.
What is missing. Peace... acceptance...faith...trust.
I'm in Quebec so on New York time...and yes I would like to talk, how would we do this, facetime?
I have read through everything and hoping that I will now be able to finally able to log on everyday as suggested.I'm afraid to load draft as I've tried this before and it mucked everything up so I will just submit answer and hope for the best...
How will life change. When you talk of life is it the world outside...it won't change.
How will you change. I don't know..not at all except less prisoner of my fearful mind who feels in danger if I let go .
What will be different.Nothing really in this life of perpetual change.
What is missing. Peace... acceptance...faith...trust.
I'm in Quebec so on New York time...and yes I would like to talk, how would we do this, facetime?
I have read through everything and hoping that I will now be able to finally able to log on everyday as suggested.I'm afraid to load draft as I've tried this before and it mucked everything up so I will just submit answer and hope for the best...
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Re: The truth will set you free
I am so sorry that you had trouble with the technology. Our site does have trouble every now and then but they always get it fixed.
We mostly do guiding on the forum here. I've been considering offering doing teleconferences, but for pay. Maybe you could be a test case. I'm in Colorado.
Did you listen to Zooming in on Death from my Dropbox?
Loving,
We mostly do guiding on the forum here. I've been considering offering doing teleconferences, but for pay. Maybe you could be a test case. I'm in Colorado.
Did you listen to Zooming in on Death from my Dropbox?
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Re: The truth will set you free
PS. Be sure to save a copy of what you want to post before you post it here. That way you don't lose it.
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Re: The truth will set you free
Also, please use the Quote feature. It makes everything easier to read & find.
Below is a link to the video with instructions on using the Quote Function. Please watch it. Use the PREVIEW button to make sure your text looks right before you hit "SUBMIT."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660
Loving,
Below is a link to the video with instructions on using the Quote Function. Please watch it. Use the PREVIEW button to make sure your text looks right before you hit "SUBMIT."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
Re: The truth will set you free
I am so sorry that you had trouble with the technology. Our site does have trouble every now and then but they always get it fixed.
We mostly do guiding on the forum here. I've been considering offering doing teleconferences, but for pay. Maybe you could be a test case. I'm in Colorado.
Did you listen to Zooming in on Death from my Dropbox?
Loving,
I will listen to zooming in on death and give you feedback.....Also, please use the Quote feature. It makes everything easier to read & find.
Below is a link to the video with instructions on using the Quote Function. Please watch it. Use the PREVIEW button to make sure your text looks right before you hit "SUBMIT."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660
Loving,
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Re: The truth will set you free
Great.
Please Quote only the questions.
The reply goes outside the box.
I read these on my phone that it helps a lot .Also later we will be sharing your answers to some questions with other guides who will have to read it.
I'll watch for your next post.
Loving,
Please Quote only the questions.
The reply goes outside the box.
I read these on my phone that it helps a lot .Also later we will be sharing your answers to some questions with other guides who will have to read it.
I'll watch for your next post.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
Re: The truth will set you free
I will listen to it tommorrow morning..Thank youDid you listen to Zooming in on Death from my Dropbox?[
Re: The truth will set you free
[/quote]Here is something to watch, particularly at about 57 minutes
I have already seen this one but will relisten, something new may come out of relistening. I've been following Angello for 2 years and have done 4 online retreats with him.
Re: The truth will set you free
What would you]like for me to call you? What time zone are you in, please?
Not at the moment maybe in the future so tell me what you charge please.
Re: The truth will set you free
[/quote]Please let me know if you are clear about this or if you would like any further clarification[/quote]
I understand.
[/quote]Did you listen to Zooming in on Death from my Dropbox
I understand.
[/quote]Did you listen to Zooming in on Death from my Dropbox
I listened this morning.. didn't understand how to do it..void and cold
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Re: The truth will set you free
Hi.
I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with how & what to quote. Please Quote my questions, not your answers.
Keep trying, please.
I'm glad to hear you're familiar with Angelo. He's very good. Pernille Damore is also good.
Since I don't have anything formal set up, I would do video by donation. How much would be up to you.
Alright. Ask a question about how to do the death meditation and I'll help. If you got "void & cold" you went too far. to where you were already dead. Back up just ca bit to the precise moment of death.
Here is your vnext pointer.
Direct Experience - Labeling Daily Activities
Here's an exercise that I would like you to try as many times throughout the day as you can. Label daily activities simply color/image, sound, smell, taste, sensation, thought.
So for example, when having breakfast, become aware of:
Seeing a cup, simply= image/color
Smelling coffee, simply = smell
Feeling the warmth of the coffee cup, simply = sensation
Tasting the coffee, simply = taste
Hearing the spoon stirring the coffee, simply = sound
Thought about drinking the coffee, simply = thought
Just break down daily activities into these categories (which are all Actual/Direct Experience) and report back with lists exactly like the one above.
Post several of your own observations in a list *exactly* like the one above, please.
Refer to the green list of Actual/Direct Experience in the prior post if that helps. Those are the only items any experience can be.
You can just post your lists. No quoting there because they're your answers.
Ilona created a guided meditation on fear. I've don't want to overload you. but that's available.
Loving,
I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with how & what to quote. Please Quote my questions, not your answers.
Keep trying, please.
I'm glad to hear you're familiar with Angelo. He's very good. Pernille Damore is also good.
Since I don't have anything formal set up, I would do video by donation. How much would be up to you.
Alright. Ask a question about how to do the death meditation and I'll help. If you got "void & cold" you went too far. to where you were already dead. Back up just ca bit to the precise moment of death.
Here is your vnext pointer.
Direct Experience - Labeling Daily Activities
Here's an exercise that I would like you to try as many times throughout the day as you can. Label daily activities simply color/image, sound, smell, taste, sensation, thought.
So for example, when having breakfast, become aware of:
Seeing a cup, simply= image/color
Smelling coffee, simply = smell
Feeling the warmth of the coffee cup, simply = sensation
Tasting the coffee, simply = taste
Hearing the spoon stirring the coffee, simply = sound
Thought about drinking the coffee, simply = thought
Just break down daily activities into these categories (which are all Actual/Direct Experience) and report back with lists exactly like the one above.
Post several of your own observations in a list *exactly* like the one above, please.
Refer to the green list of Actual/Direct Experience in the prior post if that helps. Those are the only items any experience can be.
You can just post your lists. No quoting there because they're your answers.
Ilona created a guided meditation on fear. I've don't want to overload you. but that's available.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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