Wirklichkeit

[Penelope]

Dear Stacy,
my thinking or no, better my experiencing is limited.

There's only 1 Sensation. LOOKING at this carefully would have helped you see there's no division & no separate "self."
What is "real" does not go away when you stop thinking about it. Then table will still be there. The "self" will not.

Right now, when I look at the word “LOOKING” from you, all I can think of is to look and notice the separation between my butt and the chair. I remember your pointer with the “Coloured Socks”.
That I only can be 100% sure by looking. So I did not think or feel but wanted to make it 100 % sure and I looked. Now I think - before I was just checking.
So what is the 1 sensation here? Do I really need to sit and look at it for 3 months? As it is me, I will need half a year. But so what, if I could manage the experience in 6 months, I would be glad.

See if you can notice that there is only experiencing with no experiencer - no one having an experience.

This is a beautiful sentence – I wish I could say it.
I am sitting on a chair – there is an I and the chair and an experience.
If I don’t think………
I need more time.

Ilse

[Anastacia42]

That's okay. Take all the time you need. It may sneak up on you.

6 months is nothing compared to a lifetime.

If you want something else to try,

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/k1ph01pt ... mhqwc&dl=0

Keep LOOKING.

Post after each one of these what happens.

Loving,

[Penelope]

That's okay. Take all the time you need. It may sneak up on you.

Please, Stacy, stay with me. I was afraid at first, that you will leave me alone now only with this link.
And you did not explain the “Coloured Socks Looking” Did I get that wrong?

Post after each one of these what happens.

I will!! I am very curious, very excited.
I hope we hear from each other again soon.

With love,
Ilse

[Anastacia42]

I'm not going anywhere that I know of & even if I did another guide would help you.

How does this help to understand this "no self" idea.? Because it is just a knowledge for me until now?
But how will I ever see and know about it like coloured socks?

By doing the pointers.

Watch the fear meditation again whenever you need to.

Loving,

[Penelope]

Dear Stacy,

I need you!! And your support.

Post after each one of these what happens.

Thanks for the link to the meditations.
These are very unusual for me and I'm only on the 3rd one.
And that is hard work. Since I'm not that good with English, I don't really understand a lot of things. So I pull up the transcript and copy it and then I translate it and then I listen to the recording again to understand what it's about.
I am glad to hear, that god is everything that exists.
But it does not reduce the self.
In meditation 3, I saw the thoughts in an endless desert as endless waves of sand, each one a thought. like an ocean of ​​sand and every now and then a wave would just break away and become a thought for someone, then disappear if not held.

Can you point to this line or does it exist only in your thoughts?
What would it be like if there were only one Sensation?

And besides, I always have this last pointer from you in my head and wherever I have to sit, be it on the bus, in the doctor's waiting room, in a restaurant, etc., I notice where the butt is and where the chair. And I dont get the one sensation. There is always my butt and the chair. Just to let you know I'm still at it. And it comforts me ( and makes me impatient as well) that you said you needed 3 months to solve it.

Watch the fear meditation again whenever you need to.

As for my anxiety, I have been contacting her and talking to her every day and it seems that little by little it is getting less. There is no real AHA moment. I just notice more freedom when I'm around people. When asking the fear, what it is doing for me, the answer is, it protects me from being seen as nothing. That I am not who I pretend to be. I am not myself. That's kind of weird because it sounds like I don't have a self of my own and I'm just pretending to have one to fit in.

Thats it for today, have a nice weekend,
with love Ilse

[Anastacia42]

Good morning Ilse.

I could see if any of the guides speak & write German if you'd like?

Meanwhile, we do not "solve" anything.

We only LOOK.

There's already no self. It is only a made up thought. We only have to stop thinking fiction & look.

Can you understand this video?

https://youtu.be/wyNwhK2Ur1c?si=TZwuFEst-7Hsadpu

You're doing fine. Just keep looking & ignore thinking.

Much love,

[Penelope]

Thank you again for your wisdom, dear Stacy.

Can you understand this video?
https://youtu.be/wyNwhK2Ur1c?si=TZwuFEst-7Hsadpu

Yes, I believe I understand. Thats the reason why I am here. I do have the desire and I trust that there is no “I” and I wish so much, being free from Self. Still, there is this feeling of me and mine.
I know I do not do the seeing. I open my eyes and there is seeing – but still I feel I am the seer.
Same with hearing. I do not do the hearing nor the noises, hearing happens – but it happens to me.
Same with feeling or smelling. It is not easy to look without past experiences. Please tell me, where I am wrong.
I am watching other videos from LU as well.

I could see if any of the guides speak & write German if you'd like?

I dont know. Maybe it would be easier for me because then I wouldn't have to worry that I misunderstood something. And always translating is time consuming. But on the other hand I would be afraid of losing you. Look what comes up.

With love,
Ilse

[Anastacia42]

Hi Ilse,

It turns out that we have only one German speaking guide. He is busy and has a waiting list.

Yes, we did Colored Socks here a month ago. Scroll back to:

Re: Wirklichkeit
Postby Anastacia42 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:54 pm

It's okay to be confused.
And what is the „whole thing“ story we believed?
The story of a separate "self."

This is how to LOOK for no self in the exercises - we call them "pointers' - that we will be doing here:

Colored Socks (and the exercise is below)

If you are calling a tension or tightness, "self," that is the lie feeling, not any "self."

Please tell me, where I am wrong.

Okay, read this:

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/res ... ar-seeker/

You must be relaxed to see that there is no self. It does not happen when you are tense and scared. Keep using the fear videos and the anxiety exercise.

Loving,

[Penelope]

Dear Stacy,

Thank you for all your encouragement. I have read and understood this link. But I’m stuck

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/res ... ar-seeker/

I would like to explain to you where I am at the moment: I think I misunderstood the LOOK.
It is very clear to me that I can only be 100% sure of a reality if I look. No past, no future , no thoughts, just looking. Like your example with the colored socks. Then the pointer came as to whether I could see the line between the chair and my butt when I sit. So I looked closely to be 100 percent sure and I see where the pants end and the chair begins. I see this line 100 percent. I hear from you that it should be a sensation. But how do I look at a sensation? Not with my eyes. Does this have anything to do with looking? I'm stuck here. Can you please give me a hint about this? So that I may understand this pointer to a sensation?
Even when I look at it without an I, there is sitting and a chair.

I also found the German archive in the LU Board and am now reading some communications in German. It suddenly sounds different. So much closer.
And I continue to translate the meditations from your Dropbox.
And I talk to my fear, which becomes more relaxed and even funnier every time.

Again, thank you so much. I am looking forward to your reply.
Ilse

[Anastacia42]

Hi Ilse,

In the case of ButtChair, the looking is in your mind's eye. You don't need to bend over and look. But even if you do, that "line" is not necessarily real.

Think of it like this:

What is the chair made of? Let's say atoms.
What is your butt made of? Atoms!
What ACTUALLY separates them? ???


The German archive is a great idea!

Maybe you can find this ButtChair exercise in the archive in someone's thread.

Then the pointer came as to whether I could see the line between the chair and my butt when I sit. So I looked closely to be 100 percent sure and I see where the pants end and the chair begins. I see this line 100 percent. I hear from you that it should be a sensation. But how do I look at a sensation? Not with my eyes. Does this have anything to do with looking? I'm stuck here. Can you please give me a hint about this? So that I may understand this pointer to a sensation?
Even when I look at it without an I, there is sitting and a chair.

Do you understand now?

You are over-thinking everything. Honestly, *any* thinking is too much. Thoughts will always continue to arise. Ignore them. Or look past them to what they represent, the sight, sound, touch, etc.

What is found about LOOKING in the German archive?

Loving,

[Penelope]

Yes, Stacy, you are right.

You are over-thinking everything.

I am overthinking . This is the label I put on to myself. I always want to make it right. No mistakes. Here I want to meet your expectations without mistakes.
I am fairly busy at this weekend. I will read more in the German archive, perhaps I will find something. In any case it helps. And your reply as well.
I will write more tomorrow.
Thank you,
Ilse

[Anastacia42]

Don't worry about "right" or any expectations I have.

Just LOOK!

That's all it takes.

Much love,

[Penelope]

Dear Stacy,

What is the chair made of? Let's say atoms.
What is your butt made of? Atoms!
What ACTUALLY separates them? ???

If I look at it this way, then I cannot imagine that there is anything between it. But understanding it intellectually doesn't mean that I already experience it.

What is found about LOOKING in the German archive?

I was following german communication threads and it is interesting how different people / seekers look and learn. But I didn’t find the ButtChair exercise in the archive so far. Its a lot more to read.
I can't imitate anyone, I have to look for myself.

Yesterday and today, when I was in a stressing situation (with lot of people and with my dentist)
I suddenly remembered, that I cannot control anything.
There was immediate relief and I had to smile. Unfortunately it goes away again very fast, but at least it was an experience. I would like to have this more often.
But is that possible without thinking?
Otherwise, I feel like I've never had so many thoughts in my brain. Not just thoughts, but also little film snippets in front of my eyes, not stories like in my thoughts, more like excerpts from a film I don't know, disjointed. Thats nearly too much. I have nothing to do with these films, I know that. I didn’t make them and I didn’t invite them either this is clear and I can laugh about it. With thoughts it is different, as these are always from my past and have to do with me and my life story. Ignoring these is harder.

Thanks for listening,
Ilse

[Anastacia42]

Hi Ilse,

Do the fear meditations as often as you need to.

You must relax to allow seeing the truth to happen. It is not something you "understand." It is not something you "do." It happens on its own. Often when you least expect it.

Just relax as much as you can.

Use the anxiety exercise to help you.

Remember, there is *already* no self! You only have to LOOK. It takes only a second of simple looking.

Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Hi Ilse,

You have said several times you are afraid of me abandoning you, but I have not seen you in over 2 weeks now.

Are you stopping?

Thank you,