Help with the first fetter, plz

[Chrisd]

Please let me know if you are clear about this or if you would like any further clarification.

Understood thank you.

Is this or is this not a shift in perception?

During a walk in the forest today I was amazed how responsive the natural world is and for a moment there was a subtle shift in identity and it seemed like this presence was a field and I was that.

Later, In the shopping mall I noticed by centering my bodily awareness in the chest or throat or gut, certain people would jump out in the visual field. I'm not sure if this is all just a distraction at this point.

Thanks again.

[Anastacia42]

Okay.

No idea about the people thing, but the rest of it sounds like the type of shift in perception we look for.

Let me know when you can say 100% that there is no separate self. At that point we have a few traditional questions that we will share with other guides who may have questions.

Loving

[Anastacia42]

From my first post:

One thing that is helpful is to come to this forum
& post every day. Sometimes the site goes down. It will be back. Just come back later.


Loving,

[Chrisd]

Hi Stacy, Yes I was planning to write last night but had no updates, infact everything seems to have gone in reverse with awakening. More thoughts and reactivity, any suggestions? Much appreciated, Chris

[Anastacia42]

Okay, try these. Be sure to listen to the introduction.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ksba3zhi9uuz ... hsk1a?dl=0

Loving,

[Chrisd]

This is fabulous many thanks Stacy.

[Anastacia42]

Good.

Please post your direct experience after each one.

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Please post your direct experience after each one.

This is the everything as God meditation. My mind had no problem with the definition of God so it went quiet almost immediately. Resting in the sense of self and the body sensations and labeling each movement of awareness as God, I felt an almost Out of Body experience. There was alot of expansion in the boundary of self that persisted most of the afternoon. It was easy to drop back in during daily activity, I liked this one.

[Anastacia42]

That's beautiful. Yes.

We're looking for a shift in perception. It may be subtle, as you describe it.

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Hi Stacy, after doing the 2nd mediation it brought a new quality of noticing, he said something about the body and sensations as themselves thoughts and something clicked. I sense of self shifted about about 12 inches forward and afterwards i pickeda cup up feels though It is an appendage, all very curious lol. All these movements of awareness feel like rays emanating from a single place. Couldn't find the place

[Anastacia42]

Yes. That sounds like the kind of shift we're looking for.

Can you say 100% there's no separate "self? "

Be with the experience. Continue to notice what is true.

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Can you say 100% there's no separate "self? "

Hiya, during meditation and at times during the day it's obvious that the self isn't present, it couldn't possibly be without the mind chuntering away. But the self does seem to pop up now and again and it's easy to get caught up in the story. But it's definitely dissolving, and the mediations are helping.

Perceiving/ receiving. This practice has been the deepest so far it felt like I was an ice cube slowly melting into the chair, very strange experience that dislodged a knot in my brow that has been there for 2 months or so

Thanks again, Chris

[Anastacia42]

Good, Chris. I'm glad you're liking the pointers.

the self does seem to pop up now and again

Impossible. You must mean "the thought of self," since there is no such thing. "Self" does not exist at all.

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Hi Stacy, haven't had a chance to so much today, going to try another pointer tonight.

Impossible. You must mean "the thought of self," since there is no such thing. "Self" does not exist at all.

Yeah, it's identifying with the contraction. If I can remain present in activity there's just happening and sensation. On a good day the strong bodily reactions jolt me from thought and even quite triggering events are not sticky.

Chris

[Anastacia42]

That sounds good. Keep looking. Keep posting.

Loving,