No, thoughts are not aware of anything. Can't think, read, smell, taste or touch.Can a thought think?
Can a thought read these words?
Yes.Is there awareness of these words on the screen?
Is there awareness of what is seen ? what is heard?
You need to be sure about seeing that there is no you, no separate self as you are sure that there is no Superman in real life. It is not a logical reasoning about if... and if not...If there is no 'me' then who is aware? I get stuck here.
Is the following correct? When I look for a separate self or the 'me' it's an idea/thought which doesn't link to anything 'real' or observable in my experience. The thought door links to a visual door. 'Me' links to nothing real or observable. It's almost like a fictional character / idea which I have been identifying with. The body is real, the thought (as a thought) is real, but the decider, thinker, doer... Any 'er' is just the thought telling a fictional narrative which I've been identifying with, or rather identifying with itself.You need to be sure about seeing that there is no you, no separate self as you are sure that there is no Superman in real life. It is not a logical reasoning about if... and if not...
Brilliant! There is no one thinking. Thought IS thinking. Sight IS seeing. Sounds IS hearing.We say "it is raining" knowing that there is no one doing it. It is better to say "raining is happening".
No, there is a thought which when believed makes it seem as though there is a 'me' doing something. Really there is just unfolding happening. Thoughts are part of the unfolding.Is there a you doing something? Are you making thoughts arise?
NoAre you making experiences arise?
Are you doing the seeing? the smelling?
Are you doing something to be aware?
Have you seen this ?Is the following correct? When I look for a separate self or the 'me' it's an idea/thought which doesn't link to anything 'real' or observable in my experience. The thought door links to a visual door. 'Me' links to nothing real or observable. It's almost like a fictional character / idea which I have been identifying with. The body is real, the thought (as a thought) is real, but the decider, thinker, doer... Any 'er' is just the thought telling a fictional narrative which I've been identifying with, or rather identifying with itself.
Brilliant! There is no one thinking.
Are you kidding? Can a thought think, or a sight see or a sound hear? Are there sentient?Thought IS thinking. Sight IS seeing. Sounds IS hearing.
YesNo, there is a thought which when believed makes it seem as though there is a 'me' doing something. Really there is just unfolding happening. Thoughts are part of the unfolding.
This is an exercise which will help.This answer has a tad less certainty than the one's below.
Yes, I've seen this for a while. But the clarity comes and goes (not the fact of it). It feels obvious yet illusive.Have you seen this ?
If so how do you feel after seeing this?
No, I think what I wrote was misinterpreted. I wasn't saying thoughts think and sights see. I was saying that a thought is the equivelant of thinking. There isn't both thinking and thought. Sound is the equivelant of hearing . There isn't both sound and hearing. Just like there isn't both raining and rain as separate things. That's what I meant by thought IS thinking (they aren't different). Very clear thougt, sight, etc. Is insentient.Are you kidding? Can a thought think, or a sight see or a sound hear? Are there sentient?
YesAre you aware of thoughts ?
Are you aware with no thoughts, of the silence ?
Hard to say exactly. It just happens is what I am meant to say, and this is true. But there is also a strong urge or feeling tone of a decision being made. But they are just feelings. There is also the thought 'I am deciding x' but that is just thought. But still doesn't feel 100% uncontrolled. Can't find 'a chooser' though.What is it exactly that is choosing which hand to raise?
No, similar to above. There is a feeling and thoughts associated with choosing.Can you find a separate individual or anything that is doing the choosing?
Nothing. Hand just moves. But there are very very thin / mild thoughts / overlays claiming ownership of movementWhat is it that is controlling the hand?
Being aware knowingly is the best way to settle.Yes, I've seen this for a while. But the clarity comes and goes (not the fact of it). It feels obvious yet illusive.
Yes, I write what you said like this : thought=thinking, sight=seeing, awareness=being aware, ... Great to see that there is no separation between what is seen and the seeing.No, I think what I wrote was misinterpreted. I wasn't saying thoughts think and sights see. I was saying that a thought is the equivelant of thinking. There isn't both thinking and thought. Sound is the equivelant of hearing . There isn't both sound and hearing. Just like there isn't both raining and rain as separate things. That's what I meant by thought IS thinking (they aren't different). Very clear thougt, sight, etc. Is insentient.
There is no you to feel stupid, do you see this?Interestingly I noticed quite a bit of identifying when I realized how the statement was interpreted. I didn't want to feel stupid. Was mildly triggering ☺️
Great, I like your honesty.Ok so I spent more time with the exercise...
Wanting to be super honest vs being a good student
A choser as such, is not found. The old mode of feeling and thinking is still operating. Just give light to the feeling and know it is just a feeling not a decision maker. Give light to the thought and see it as a thought not a decision maker.Hard to say exactly. It just happens is what I am meant to say, and this is true. But there is also a strong urge or feeling tone of a decision being made. But they are just feelings. There is also the thought 'I am deciding x' but that is just thought. But still doesn't feel 100% uncontrolled. Can't find 'a chooser' though.
Same comments as above.No, similar to above. There is a feeling and thoughts associated with choosing.
Now, discriminate between sensations and thoughts : sensations are only sensations and the thought "a sense of decider" is put on them ; do you see the subtlety of this?It just happens, but seems to link to mild urges and some feelings/sensations. I am not suggesting the urgea ans sensations decide, but they create a sense of a decider.
No seer or hearer. This is very clear. A knower being absent is less clear to me, but very clear at times.Is there a seer? a hearer? a knower?
Is there a you, a separate self in any shape or form?
I see there is a projection of a me who felt stupid or misinderstood. Usually I believe the projection is me. But the projection can't be tied to anything actual in my experience.There is no you to feel stupid, do you see this?
Yes, I need to see them as insentient arisingsJust give light to the feeling and know it is just a feeling not a decision maker. Give light to the thought and see it as a thought not a decision maker.
Yes, a bit. I need to spend a bit of time looking at this more.Now, discriminate between sensations and thoughts : sensations are only sensations and the thought "a sense of decider" is put on them ; do you see the subtlety of this?
No seer or hearer. This is very clear.
There is awareness (being aware ) but no knower as a subject :if it were so it would be seen.A knower being absent is less clear to me, but very clear at times.
Yes, how do you feel to see this?No separate self in any shape or form, other than the thought. But that's not a real self. It's an imagined self with no 'actual' reality.
Do you see that all this is a thought story? How can a me (a concept) feel stupid.I see there is a projection of a me who felt stupid or misinderstood. Usually I believe the projection is me. But the projection can't be tied to anything actual in my experience.
No effort is needed.Yes, I need to see them as insentient arisings
Practice the discrimination between thoughts and direct experience (seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching or sensations). The label is not the object : the concept water does not quench your thirst.Yes, a bit. I need to spend a bit of time looking at this more.
A mild 'oh cool' feeling. But a bit of hmmm this isn't changing much viscerally.Yes, how do you feel to see this?
Yes. A concept can't feel stupid. It can't feel. It's an image. But the image of a stupid-self can trigger emotions. Those emotions aren't owned by anyone. But they certainly feel like they are. Stronger emotions 'feel' owned. But I know any owner is more thought.Do you see that all this is a thought story? How can a me (a concept) feel stupid.
RedWhen you look at the word label ‘GREEN’, what is the actual experience?
Suggests something elseIs the colour red ‘experienced’, or is the colour green ‘experienced’ as the label suggests?
Does the label ‘GREEN’ have a one-to-one correspondence with ‘reality’? Or does the label suggest something else other than what is here now (red colour)?
A label. 'Me' is just a label that overlays all experience.Is 'green' associated in any way with the experience of the colour red; or is green just a label that overlays the actual experience of red?
NoIf the label ‘GREEN’ is replaced with the label ‘GOOD’ or ‘BAD’, is the redness affected in any way as the labels suggests?
A mild 'oh cool' feeling. But a bit of hmmm this isn't changing much viscerally.Yes, how do you feel to see this?
Yes. A concept can't feel stupid. It can't feel. It's an image. But the image of a stupid-self can trigger emotions. Those emotions aren't owned by anyone. But they certainly feel like they are. Stronger emotions 'feel' owned. But I know any owner is more thought.Do you see that all this is a thought story? How can a me (a concept) feel stupid.
RedWhen you look at the word label ‘GREEN’, what is the actual experience?
Suggests something elseIs the colour red ‘experienced’, or is the colour green ‘experienced’ as the label suggests?
Does the label ‘GREEN’ have a one-to-one correspondence with ‘reality’? Or does the label suggest something else other than what is here now (red colour)?
A label. 'Me' is just a label that overlays all experience.Is 'green' associated in any way with the experience of the colour red; or is green just a label that overlays the actual experience of red?
NoIf the label ‘GREEN’ is replaced with the label ‘GOOD’ or ‘BAD’, is the redness affected in any way as the labels suggests?
There is no great change after having seen through the illusion of a separate self. It is like seeing that Santa does not exist.A mild 'oh cool' feeling. But a bit of hmmm this isn't changing much viscerally.
Yes.Yes. A concept can't feel stupid. It can't feel. It's an image.
But the image of a stupid-self can trigger emotions.
Those emotions aren't owned by anyone. But they certainly feel like they are. Stronger emotions 'feel' owned.But I know any owner is more thought.
You replaced the word "green" with the word "me" in your answer. In direct experience "does the label "me" overlay all experience?A label. 'Me' is just a label that overlays all experience.Is 'green' associated in any way with the experience of the colour red; or is green just a label that overlays the actual experience of red?
Yes and no. A particular emotion will cause a particular label. Eg. A certain feeling leads to a label 'sad'. But the sensation exists independently of any label. The label isn't the sensation. Just an attenpt to capture it.Emotion is a movement of energy in the body + a label. Having said that, is there a link between the sensation in the body and the label, in direct experience?
It is present in experience eg. 'My body', 'my feelings', but it isn't truly linked to the stuff it says its linked to. I links itself to experiences but doesn't truly / actually overlay.You replaced the word "green" with the word "me" in your answer. In direct experience "does the label "me" overlay all experience?
Is it your body? Are they your feelings? Is there a real me to which these belong?It is present in experience eg. 'My body', 'my feelings', but it isn't truly linked to the stuff it says its linked to.
Can a concept "I" link itself? Is "I" sentient?I links itself to experiences but doesn't truly / actually overlay.
No. There is an imagined 'me' which is just a thought. This imagined me when identified with is the so called 'my'. But it doesn't point to anything real in experience.Is it your body? Are they your feelings? Is there a real me to which these belong?
The concept 'I' is not sentient. It's just a label.Can a concept "I" link itself? Is "I" sentient?
No. No 'thing' outside of thought can be called 'I'. 'I' is a phantom thought.Is "I" pointing to something outside of thoughts?
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