Seeing the illusion of self

[FritzAA]

I don't find anything that is NOT a happening. Everything is a happening, because nothing is separate.

Fritz

[Luchana]

Hi Fritz,

I don't find anything that is NOT a happening. Everything is a happening, because nothing is separate.

Nice :-)

And is there a centre of this happening?
Is it happening to a someone or something?

Love,
Luchana

[FritzAA]

And is there a centre of this happening?
Is it happening to a someone or something?

Yes, it's happening to a centre, which is 'me'. I'm certain of it.

This kind of question reminds me that people are just DIFFERENT.

When Luchana asks such a question, she finds there is no me.
When Fritz asks this question, he finds a me. No matter how much he tries, he can't find that there is no me. It's just there.
It's not an illusion.

None of us can say what another person sees or feels or hears or thinks. We can only speak for ourselves.

Love, Fritz

[Luchana]

Hey Fritz,

I'm glad you write back.
Something still drawing you here in this inquiry and this is beautiful.

This kind of question reminds me that people are just DIFFERENT.

Yes, there is a uniqueness in the experience. Each experience is unique and equally valid.
There is no wrong experience.

Can you pay attention to that which keeps coming back and writing a reply.
That which knows that there is something more, something else.
That which longs for freedom - is it different/separate from it?

Sending love,
Luchana


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[FritzAA]

[quoteCan you pay attention to that which keeps coming back and writing a reply.
That which knows that there is something more, something else.
That which longs for freedom - is it different/separate from it?][/quote]

Hmmm... this is a good question! Is there something which 'knows' there is something more, something else?
No, I just HOPE there is something more. I can't say I KNOW there is something more.

'Longs for freedom' -- I wonder what that means. I suppose there is no difference between that which longs and freedom itself, but I don't know for sure.

[Luchana]

Hi Fritz,

Lovely to read your reply.

'Longs for freedom' -- I wonder what that means. I suppose there is no difference between that which longs and freedom itself, but I don't know for sure.

There is something which resonate here, no?

Can you look closely the longing for freedom, just sink into that feeling.
Be with it. With no need to figure it out..

Let me know how does this feels?

Sending love,
Luchana

[FritzAA]

Hi,

I suppose the longing for freedom is like an irritation, an annoyance, a wondering why Self is still there.

[Luchana]

Hi Fritz.

I suppose the longing for freedom is like an irritation, an annoyance, a wondering why Self is still there.

Oh, let's dive into that irritation and annoyance then!
Notice how much energy there is.
Feel into it. Bring it very close.
If you ask that feeling - "Why are you here? What is your message?"

What comes as an answer.

examine the row sensation without thought interpretation...

Sending love,
Luchana

[FritzAA]

Oh, let's dive into that irritation and annoyance then!
Notice how much energy there is.
Feel into it. Bring it very close.
If you ask that feeling - "Why are you here? What is your message?"

What comes as an answer.

Its message is "you will never see through the illusory self". And I tend to believe it because it has been correct.
It has never lied. Those teachers who told me it was possible to see that the Self is not there have not been proven correct. But the annoyance has been correct, so I can not argue with it.

Love,
Fritz

[Luchana]

Hi Fritz.

Its message is "you will never see through the illusory self". And I tend to believe it because it has been correct.
It has never lied. Those teachers who told me it was possible to see that the Self is not there have not been proven correct. But the annoyance has been correct, so I can not argue with it.

Thank you for your honesty.

That which keeps coming back to the forum, to this thread:

Is it a you?
Is it a thought?
is it a body?


Love,
Luchana

[FritzAA]

That which keeps coming back to the forum, to this thread:

Is it a you?
Is it a thought?
is it a body?

The best answer I can give is that it's a 'you' though I suppose no word is accurate. It feels like a 'me'.

Love,
Fritz

[Luchana]

Hi Fritz.

The best answer I can give is that it's a 'you' though I suppose no word is accurate. It feels like a 'me'.

All right.
What is the problem with that feeling?

Is it ok to be there?

Love,
Luchana

[FritzAA]

Yes, it's OK to be there. There's nothing I can do about it anyway.

[Luchana]

Hi Fritz.

Yes, it's OK to be there. There's nothing I can do about it anyway.

I see..

And how this realisation feels?

Is it like surrender .. like the end of all hopes?

Or it is more like I am here stuck with that and I can't do anything about it?


If you feel and impulse for a meeting - the invitation is ongoing.

Love,
Luchana

[FritzAA]

Hi Luchana,

I would say it is more like I am stuck with that and I can't do anything about it.

But-- it's not as if I think about it all the time. Most of my day I'm not thinking about the fact that I can't see
that there is No Self. But if I watch a Youtube video on Nonduality or read things on Liberation Unleashed I can feel "Damn, I wish I could see that there is no self!"

Love,
Fritz