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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Fri May 12, 2023 9:33 am

Hello Lubo,

There is bliss, lack of fear, only minimum activity, deep quietness. Not much else.

With gratitude

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Fri May 12, 2023 5:00 pm

Just being, noticing everything...

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Lubo » Fri May 12, 2023 10:15 pm

Wow,
Yes, you are the light.
I so happy for you <3
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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Sat May 13, 2023 10:58 am

Hello Lubo,

There is equanimity; everything holds everything in peace and love! . In past experiences of equality “I” was holding everything in peace and love, now everything feels energetically interchangeable.

With gratitude

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Lubo » Sun May 14, 2023 7:29 am

Mmm, I feel this love here also.
I want to invite you to dance.
Dance authentically, without special steps and see where the dance comes from

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Sun May 14, 2023 9:56 pm

Dance? dance moves this body wildly since I remember! not much of a "new" exercise! Dance and music make of this body a vibrating instrument, a way of freedom any time.

:) :) :)

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Mon May 15, 2023 10:10 am

Hello Lubo,

I am not sure if this is relevant. I have been feeling very dizzy for a few days, muscles feel heavy, head spins and I feel like sea sick and faint. It comes suddenly and lasts for hours, even at night, then disappears.

I see it, feel it and let go, I am not sure how long it may last.

Grateful

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Mon May 15, 2023 10:46 am

Also,

I keep feeling quite neutral about everything: equanimous, all encompassing, liberating, and at the same time, a sense of “what next”? is starting to appear, and feels uncomfortable, pushy.

With gratitude

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Lubo » Mon May 15, 2023 6:56 pm

Hi dear Victoria,
thank you for sharing this.
I keep feeling quite neutral about everything: equanimous, all encompassing, liberating, and at the same time, a sense of “what next”? is starting to appear, and feels uncomfortable, pushy.
you have infinite layers. and you can walk and investigate all of them, and no need to abide only on one of them.

I want to show this special layer of you, let's walk together?
For me the gate is - No time, what is this around, this right here, right now...
and " I am in" or out of the story and imaginations.

Move your hand and notice isn't it the same energy which moves and appear as everything?
This divinity isn't it you?

when you meet someone and you look at his/hers eyes, notice who is looking who?
touch someone's hand and notice who is touching who?
Do it literally.

when you're in a crowd notice - isn't it all these people are one and the same divinity, one powerful energy which is moving as these people ?

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Tue May 16, 2023 5:22 pm

Good afternoon Lubo,

Thanks for your message!

I struggle to understand with you English in this message!
“you have infinite layers. and you can walk and investigate all of them, and no need to abide only on one of them”
You are right in that there are many layers to my existence, and sometimes I manage to ‘see’ only one, and that is my direct experience, even if you wanted me to see “ all the infinite layers” at one. This is still my direct experience.

Infinite? that’s a very big concept!
“I want to show this special layer of you, let's walk together?
Thanks! I’d like that!
‘For me the gate is “
what do you mean by the gate? what is the gate? right now it’s a concept that I don’t understand.

- No time, what is this around, this right here, right now...
and " I am in" or out of the story and imaginations.”
Do you mean that time and space stop and there is only here and now? if not, I don’t get the English.
and " I am in" or out of the story and imaginations.”
And what do you mean by “I am in” or out of the story and imaginations, the English feels a bit difficult, and conceptual.
Move your hand and notice isn't it the same energy which moves and appear as everything?
Oh yes, yes, I notice that very same energy everywhere!
This divinity isn't it you?
What divinity? I don’t relate to this word, do you mean to say that this all encompassing energy, this cosmic energy?

If you mean that, I say: yes! I feel this big energy being me, and me being this cosmic energy; connected, like water in the sea.
when you meet someone and you look at his/hers eyes, notice who is looking who?
When I meet someone and we lock eyes I am seeing something beyond us, beyond that person and I.
touch someone's hand and notice who is touching who?
When I touch someone we merge and dissolve in each other.
when you're in a crowd notice - isn't it all these people are one and the same divinity, one powerful energy which is moving as these people ?
When I am in a crowd I notice that the energy is that same all around, we are all parts of the whole flowing together with that bigger energy, that is beyond me, mine and I, or even us. Like water in the sea.

With gratitude

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Tue May 16, 2023 8:27 pm

My heart has softened and connected with your last message, thanks for your understanding and you guidance, my intention when I highlighted your English was tainted by irritation, I apologise.

Many thanks

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Lubo » Tue May 16, 2023 9:21 pm

Hi dear Victoria,
yes, my English is not real English, sorry for that.
You are right in that there are many layers to my existence, and sometimes I manage to ‘see’ only one, and that is my direct experience, even if you wanted me to see “ all the infinite layers” at one. This is still my direct experience.
yes. Let's continue at DE.

put in your own words everything which can be found at DE?

Let's play here ;)

Much love
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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Wed May 17, 2023 6:31 pm

Hello Lubo,

Many thanks for being so gracious about what I wrote

Today I have been noticing how at ease my body feels with everything and everyone. My heart soft with the difficulties of a friend and the news around.

Time and space exist only in this moment, then, they even stop in direct experience. But a thought, and then a feeling, and I become disconnected: it's an old habit!

It's like a dance between connection and disconnection that is flowing through my body, my senses, my feelings, my awareness and it feels both natural and harmonious, or disconcerting, pushing - pulling in my body.

Feeling in harmony

Victoria

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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Lubo » Wed May 17, 2023 9:03 pm

Thank you dear Victoria,
Time and space exist only in this moment
I will share with you different words, they are just labels
I want you to sit with each of these words for a moment and see which one resonates the most with you. Which best describes that which is stable and is constant and always here. The word which describe everything
- existence
- only this moment
- being
- consciousness, awareness
- life

Is there you, or friend which is not the word which you chose?
can this come and go?


Much love
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Re: Breaking through views

Postby Dhvictoria » Wed May 17, 2023 10:11 pm

Good evening Lubo,

To start with, Lubo, I notice that ”the old habit of disconnecting, separating from life together IS the old fantasy of being “I” , and I get that; the duality in connected, soft and together, and separated, isolated “I” sad illusion.

And every time I forget this direct experience of connection, love in the universe, I separate and become sad, alone ”I” ; the paradoxical illusion.
Which best describes that which is stable and is constant and always here. The word which describe everything
- existence
- only this moment
- being
- consciousness, awareness
life
I embody each word…
Existence
It keeps changing, like my blood pressure!
I see existence everywhere; whether I notice the fox in my garden but how about the stone? It exists it grows moss and little animals and cracks, I see it now, but tend to forget stones because they seem unchangeable and uninteresting :)
only this moment
Yes! this moment is the start of joy, reality, connection, love, compassion and a long, long list.
Being
being energy, yes! all passes through, vibrates, echoes, i.e; hands move, body trembles with music, movement: the leaves in the trees, the sun light, the love between people also trembles in the body warm, kindness percolating through this simply being, this simple breath.
Consciousness, awareness
I am glad you paired them up!
This noticing hand, body, music, movement, leaves, sun, love between people, warm kindness in body, together arising in awareness, also one by in awareness.
Life
I can repeat again what I have just said in any of this “just labels”

I feel I need to use words, what else for responding to your enquiry? but I notice they can show the light, the love,
or the darkness - here I feel some fear, resistance; the illusion of self in disguise!

I have seen that they have been carrying my illusions, fantasies too often. Perhaps I need to be lighter about words, lighter about me, mine and I.

Love

Victoria


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