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[tryfailtry]

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you say -... there is something constant there... something always the same.. always there... and nothing else is real..


could you just elaborate on that for me..... particularly "nothing else is real"

[alexmcca]

hello!

you say -... there is something constant there... something always the same.. always there... and nothing else is real.. could you just elaborate on that for me..... particularly "nothing else is real"

yes... I mean experience being experienced is always there... and nothing else is - ah, by that I mean, no "part" of experience, liked images/thoughts are real as separate entities. I see that what I said doesn't quite reflect what was meant....

[tryfailtry]

So you see that thoughts are just thoughts- and have no basis in reality/just pop up on their own/automatically/with no decider or chooser of their content?- is that clear to you?.....or at least becoming clear :) Can thoughts think?

[alexmcca]

Falling away :) ...nice ..isn't it- notice how it requires almost no effort- and yes it is not some huge bombshell.....no fault to anyone in particular but spirituality is big business.....the expectations of it being fireworks and trumpets can cause setbacks- but notice how that is not up to anyone- its just the play of life.

You ended up here all by 'no-self' :)

yes :-)

Experience will not change as a whole- in fact experiences may become more robust and vibrant- but taking the 'personalness' out of it- allows it to be fully experienced without blaming anyone- what is to blame? No need to take life so serious is there?

It has been so interesting... initially been like the body has some sort of emotional hangover. Like it still felt the same .... as in "negative" in some way... but at the same time my face would start to laugh and different thoughts would be showing up. The body seemed behind the times....!

I have notice that various conversations have come up today that had triggered certain "reactions" before.... but they just weren't there. It really seemed like a story, not personal. I can tell this is just the beginning......

Do you have any doubts? Any questions for me?

No doubt now that this is happening...... whatever that means. No doubt that this is falling and unfolding.

How would you maybe describe this to someone who ask?

I want to come back to this one in a while..... something is unfolding as I type!

So you see that thoughts are just thoughts- and have no basis in reality/just pop up on their own/automatically/with no decider or chooser of their content?- is that clear to you?.....or at least becoming clear :) Can thoughts think?

yes it is clear.... sometimes the thought occurs... "I chose to think about that".... but this is followed by the thought "that was just another thought"... and even though when those thoughts occur with sensation and there is the sense of "I" ... it doesn't seem to make any difference. does that make sense?

[tryfailtry]

It has been so interesting... initially been like the body has some sort of emotional hangover. Like it still felt the same .... as in "negative" in some way... but at the same time my face would start to laugh and different thoughts would be showing up. The body seemed behind the times....!

I have notice that various conversations have come up today that had triggered certain "reactions" before.... but they just weren't there. It really seemed like a story, not personal. I can tell this is just the beginning......

Great! Stay with it- what comes up is not up to you anyway- all you can do is notice it. Are you reactions controlled by anything?- and yes it is not an end- rather a new beginning. Stick with the unfolding- might notice you have no choice anyway. :)

No doubt now that this is happening...... whatever that means. No doubt that this is falling and unfolding.

Great! I'm going to let it sit with you for a few hours or so- and you can ask any one questions you might have in the meantime. I want this to be crystal clear. As least seeing what is actually going on. Doubts may or may not arise- its knowing what they are when they do that we are after here.



YOU SAY: yes it is clear.... sometimes the thought occurs... "I chose to think about that".... but this is followed by the thought "that was just another thought"... and even though when those thoughts occur with sensation and there is the sense of "I" ... it doesn't seem to make any difference. does that make sense?

Yes- it makes sense. Again - is it clear that you aren't doing anything about what what shows up? When it shows up? Perhaps you can see through this now? Things might appear to be a little more vivid yet inherently transparent i.e "I see this is just a thought and it doesn't mean shit- so I don't have to believe it' sort of thing.


If you get stuck- ask yourself . In direct experience am I controlling anything? All you have to do is Look!

[alexmcca]

Thank you so much. Great pointers.... yes, noticed some doubts arise around this idea of "all I can do is notice it"... there was some "sense" of controlling the flow of thoughts... but as you say, what seems different is that the doubts are in turn known to be just thoughts ... thoughts like "I see this is just a thought and it doesn't mean shit- so I don't have to believe it' ... etc.

[tryfailtry]

Years and years of conditioning- that wasn't up to you anyway is being unraveled here- and that isn't up to you either. Everyone is different, but you should notice feeling more present-more aware- and perhaps an oscillation between knowing and whatever comes up- which no one is controlling....can you find a separate experiencer from experience now?

[tryfailtry]

Go enjoy some tea and ponder this. You will never have to worry again because you don't control anything! It might pop up- but who will it attach to? There is nothing there controlling any of it. It is all just flowing! Beautifully! It is not that you controlled getting here- then you relinquish it. You never had it in the first place. The "I" is just a thought construction and now that 'you' don't exist and everything just happens- there is no 'other' out there to purposely hurt you. So what else in there but right now (except in thoughts)?- which you are able to see through :)

[tryfailtry]

I know tomorrow is the weekend- but I wanted to let you know I'll be around pretty much all day if you need to bounce some insights around. Do whatever you feel compelled to do. But I'll keep an eye on this in case you have some questions as this settles.

[tryfailtry]

When I was being guided- I remember feeling I was taking up my guides time.........that is NOT THE CASE. We are happy to do this. In the meantime- enjoy the fall.

[alexmcca]

Thank you again so much. Yes, I will be around tomorrow... and I really benefit, obviously!!, from being in contact with you... so I will write again tomorrow.

Bedtime now.

[alexmcca]

hello!

Ok... quite a big realisation. Thanks so much for your persistence which is what helped me see it.

Belief in "Alex" as a fully fledged person and full separate entity wasn't there any more... and some "stuff" was falling away. Also, was noticing thought happening, the words and images and then the energy/sensation... this is pulled apart and seen. But it is like getting much better at that "skill" - rather than actually not believing anymore. Make sense? I can see that the concept of a "controller" of some sort was/is still believed. It wasn't called "I" anymore!! but it was still there... and the belief that therefore there is control and if there is control it needs to be exercised to keep this body doing and saying all the right things!

Found "myself" believing I was intentionally "going to" thoughts/memories in my mind to see if they were believed now or not ... of course this is all a function of a thought that it was "intentional" and therefore there is a "controller" still.

I am looking directly again.

[alexmcca]

ok some more...

It seems now that a "controller" doesn't control most/many things.... for instance the body is walking... facing is twitching.... hand moves... and it is just happening.... However, there is a strong sense that there is a "controller" controlling the "general intention" behind everything. eg: a controller decides to be sitting here working with you on this stuff... yes, how it is 'done' is based on unconscious programming... the details... but the overall/general intention was decided by "something"....

I don't logically think that is true... but it still feels true ....

[tryfailtry]

It's ok. Look again. Your words. Thoughts. Etc. Notice how they just come. This sense of a controller. Did that not show up by itself too? Even resistance to what is right now. Is it known before or after it's there? And this May or may not feel true. But that feeling of trueness. Is it yours? Bring it all back now. Are you controlling any of what arises?


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[tryfailtry]

A good reset button if you will. Is it true right now? These beliefs concepts thoughts etc. Are they true right now. Can you find them in direct experience?


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