Is awareness 'a thing' that is found or is experienced? Awareness is not a thing, its always there and has never been lost.
We are looking for a separate 'I' in the investigation.
Is there experience with an experiencer, or is there just 'experience'. There is 'experience' and 'that which knows it' - Are they separate? Just experience. no they are not separate, there is only one.
"There is just 'awareness' and the rest is words."
And awareness is also just a word, yes? Yes, but we have to use words to express.
Another question - Would you agree that 'awareness' is a thought appearing about the totality of experience. It is a word that 'points' to that. Yes.
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Dear Heal,
You have all the correct answers but no realization.
It seems to me you are speaking from your head. Not from experience....
So look profoundly and utterly honestly.....
Is there a you.
Who chooses. Who conducts your life?
Is there any meaning or purpose?
Is there anything to hold onto at all?
Or anyone to try to grasp the emptiness?
Nettie
You have all the correct answers but no realization.
It seems to me you are speaking from your head. Not from experience....
So look profoundly and utterly honestly.....
Is there a you.
Who chooses. Who conducts your life?
Is there any meaning or purpose?
Is there anything to hold onto at all?
Or anyone to try to grasp the emptiness?
Nettie
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Well, I have been sitting with each question, maybe not going deep enough, I was never able to do self inquiry, it just didn't get any results. I guess I don't know how to do this, please help. Any suggestions?
I will sit with these questions this evening as I will be at the hospital all day today, my sister just had another stroke, so will be sitting with her all day.
I will sit with these questions this evening as I will be at the hospital all day today, my sister just had another stroke, so will be sitting with her all day.
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...and we look again at this thing we call life.
There is this timeless flow (which includes thoughts about time) it includes all sights and smells and emotions and sensations and well.... Everything.
And every perception happens naturally. You don't have to do anything to make them occur!
(How marvelous is that!)
And every perception is recognized as it appears, also without effort, The knowing of the perception is simultaneous with the perception. They are both spontaneously happening.
In fact, they are like two aspects of the same natural process... Inseparable like heat and fire.... Or water and wetness.... Or light and sun.
And all simply happening without any effort. You don't have to do anything to make it so... There is no separate you that exists outside of this timeless flow of perception. 'You' are merely and wondrously a collection of these perceptions that you have mistaken as separate and permanent...
But when examined .... There is nothing stable and permanent. Nothing separate or apart from this uncapturable ineffable beautiful miracle we call life...
All-of-a-piece.. Of-itself-so...
Wow!
There is this timeless flow (which includes thoughts about time) it includes all sights and smells and emotions and sensations and well.... Everything.
And every perception happens naturally. You don't have to do anything to make them occur!
(How marvelous is that!)
And every perception is recognized as it appears, also without effort, The knowing of the perception is simultaneous with the perception. They are both spontaneously happening.
In fact, they are like two aspects of the same natural process... Inseparable like heat and fire.... Or water and wetness.... Or light and sun.
And all simply happening without any effort. You don't have to do anything to make it so... There is no separate you that exists outside of this timeless flow of perception. 'You' are merely and wondrously a collection of these perceptions that you have mistaken as separate and permanent...
But when examined .... There is nothing stable and permanent. Nothing separate or apart from this uncapturable ineffable beautiful miracle we call life...
All-of-a-piece.. Of-itself-so...
Wow!
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Is there a you. There is no me.
Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does.
Is there any meaning or purpose? No
Is there anything to hold onto at all? No, alot of emotion coming up with this.Lots of weeping.
Or anyone to try to grasp the emptiness? There is no one to grasp the emptiness, there is sadness coming with this.
Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does.
Is there any meaning or purpose? No
Is there anything to hold onto at all? No, alot of emotion coming up with this.Lots of weeping.
Or anyone to try to grasp the emptiness? There is no one to grasp the emptiness, there is sadness coming with this.
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Dear Heal,
Is there a you. There is no me.
"Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does."
Does there have to be a subject? Someone who chooses?
Couldn't it be that life simply happens?
"Is there any meaning or purpose? No"
Yes. How freeing!
"Is there anything to hold onto at all? No, alot of emotion coming up with this.Lots of weeping.
Or anyone to try to grasp the emptiness? There is no one to grasp the emptiness, there is sadness coming with this."
Yes there is great sadness.
How beautiful this sadness.
Feel it fully.
The idea that there is a you is dying.
Thank you for your beautiful honest answers.
Nettie
Is there a you. There is no me.
"Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does."
Does there have to be a subject? Someone who chooses?
Couldn't it be that life simply happens?
"Is there any meaning or purpose? No"
Yes. How freeing!
"Is there anything to hold onto at all? No, alot of emotion coming up with this.Lots of weeping.
Or anyone to try to grasp the emptiness? There is no one to grasp the emptiness, there is sadness coming with this."
Yes there is great sadness.
How beautiful this sadness.
Feel it fully.
The idea that there is a you is dying.
Thank you for your beautiful honest answers.
Nettie
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Is there a you. There is no me. I can't find a me.
"Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does." no one chooses or conducts life, it just flows, like the ocean , ebb and flow.
Does there have to be a subject? Someone who chooses? No to both.
Couldn't it be that life simply happens? Yes, yes, life simply happens . Feeling movement and aliveness happening!
"Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does." no one chooses or conducts life, it just flows, like the ocean , ebb and flow.
Does there have to be a subject? Someone who chooses? No to both.
Couldn't it be that life simply happens? Yes, yes, life simply happens . Feeling movement and aliveness happening!
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Dear Heal,
"Is there a you. There is no me. I can't find a me."
Yes
""Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does." no one chooses or conducts life, it just flows, like the ocean , ebb and flow."
Yes.
"Does there have to be a subject? Someone who chooses? No to both.
Couldn't it be that life simply happens? Yes, yes, life simply happens . Feeling movement and aliveness happening!"
Is there someone who feels this happening.?
Love,
Nettie
"Is there a you. There is no me. I can't find a me."
Yes
""Who chooses. Who conducts your life? Sometimes it feels like heal chooses but I know that isn't true but I don't know who does." no one chooses or conducts life, it just flows, like the ocean , ebb and flow."
Yes.
"Does there have to be a subject? Someone who chooses? No to both.
Couldn't it be that life simply happens? Yes, yes, life simply happens . Feeling movement and aliveness happening!"
Is there someone who feels this happening.?
Love,
Nettie
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It seems we start as the wow, but through our caretakers we succumb to the ultimate hoax of being separate. 'You are this or that person. This sex, these characteristics, etc.'. When we perform as this, our caregivers smile, we enjoy the play we continue. By the time we are taught that this or that thought or emotion is bad or unwanted, we are in full flux of the play. For no reason we have deluded ourselves, but I don't think anyone really believes it completely.
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