Requesting Delma as a guide

[childlike]

I didn't mean for it to be but I guess you're right. When I realize me is an illusion why does the mind keep trying to make me believe again. Do I need to keep reaffirming the is no tangible me?
Linda

[Delma]

Remember my instructions. You are looking for facts only. So, if that's what's found each time a check is done, isn't that an affirmation?

There is no mind. There is only thought, and that happens just one at a time. Test this. Where is the mind held, stored, or contained? Can the location be found in direct experience?

[childlike]

Delma
I remember the lesson. If it doesn't meet the criteria it cannot be tangible. It cannot exist. Is this right?
Linda

[Delma]

It cannot exist in the way we think it does.

The self is normally thought of as an entity. First we compare it to a tangible entity to see whether it meets that criteria. Is the self tangible? If not, then what is it? How does it seem to exist?

How do you know there is a sense of self?

[childlike]

Delma

quote="Delma"]It cannot exist in the way we think it does.

The self is normally thought of as an entity. First we compare it to a tangible entity to see whether it meets that criteria. Is the self tangible? If not, then what is it? How does it seem to exist?

I have already determined that self does not meet criteria to be tangible. What I am seeing is the accumulation of all the negative programming I have heard since birth.

A sense of self is experiencing the five senses in the moment.
How do you know there is a sense of self?[/quote]

Either I understand or I am hopelessly lost.

[Delma]

What are you asking that I help with in regard to the negative programming? If no self is clearly seen, then the negative programming belongs to no one.

Can that programming stick to an entity which is not there? If there is no self, is there a history of a self?

[childlike]

Dear Delma,
There is no me so i cannot be at disagreement with an entity that also does not exist. Nothing controlling nothing.
There is nothing with a negative history that exists. There is a me here in this moment, one thought at a time in this moment. Yes, this is apparent deep.

Linda

[Delma]

Hi there,

Is there a you anywhere at all? Has there ever been? :)

And... has there been a shift?

[childlike]

Delma
There has never been a me. I listened to a friend talk and all of a sudden I realized how absurd that something could fight with nothing. Than I saw it was all nothing.
Thank you,
Linda

[Delma]

Excellent! That's really great progress and a sudden shift!

I see that the shift came in a moment of clarity while talking to a friend? Good! As you likely know, we have a series of questions we like to ask just to be certain we haven't left anything out. If you would, please, can you answer the questions below? It will help us to see whether there is any further work we can do together.

Even more important than my opinion, is yours. If you feel there is anything you'd like to cover, I'm here for you to be sure it gets done. :)

Meanwhile, here are some questions...

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.

6) Anything to add?

All the best!
Delma

[childlike]

Hi Delma,

Sorry it took me so long to respond to questions. I have been reflecting over the emails we have exchanged. You really are amazing. I am not sure I appreciated that while we writing. So frustrating! I took the time to read your correspondance with a young man. At first I thought what could that be to me since the age difference. But I realized many things. We all sound the same. It is sitting right there and we insist that we can't see it. (must be something someone thought up to make people crazy) I am ready now to answer your questions to see if we need to do more work.
1. Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

There is not now nor was there ever a separate self, me or I

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

Life is happenning one moment at a time. I, me and self are used as language like.....I went to the store. At the time of the doing...there is no I. Lost people wander around believing in I, me, self because our society lives in this illusionary fictional world and since that is all that is known it continues. All I can say is each moment is precious happy or sad it is life.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

I was a self run amuck when I began. I had a mean ugly "I" that has always been out to bring me down. I hear it still at times. But it just washes over me. If it is not in this minute, it cannot be a real entity.

I was talking to my friend and I realized that everything said about me was an illusion because it was not happening now. What I thought about yesterday and what I think about tomorrow. Poof! It was just right there. The things you said to me that didnt make any sense. It was right there.

ps I had to give up on that other person site.....after awhile it gets slower and slower......

That is all the time I have right now.
Love, Linda

[childlike]

Hi Delma

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
I had been searching for a complecated finding. You had written that there is no I in the doing. It is just a language convention to talk about the moment from the past or the future in terms of thought. The idea a thought is real is from a thought of it that way. None of it is real. Hungry for cake? Does thinking about it fill you hunger? Thoughts are not real yet appear to control and operate a whole world of ellusion. In a conversation with a friend I realizedI had been talking about things relating to my health. I realized that there was nothing there to talk about. Only thought, no doing.

5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.
There is no controller. Life is just happening. My youngest daughter told me she was going to have another babyl Instead of being joyful she was thinking about morning sickness, Pain, problems that might arise. I saw clearly that none of those things were real. Just thoughts. Right now in this minute it is joy. Only events that are here are real. Not thinking about them. moments living without my mean thought tormentor i feel joy in my life.
Thanks for your help Delma. I plan to continue to reading the book and these conversationsl
Love, Linda


6) Anything to add?

[Delma]

That's lovely, Linda!!

Do you feel that there is anything left 'undone', or that there is a self lingering anywhere at all? It seems you are ready for confirmation, but let's remove all doubt that this is done!

Excellent!

[childlike]

Good morning Delma.
Life is being seen clearly through the thoughts. No doubts.
Linda

[Delma]

Terrific! I will get others to read through and weigh in on whether there is anything more we can work on together and we shall go from there!

Nice going!