Three questions...

[vinceschubert]

The True Self observes.

Say more about this, from direct experiencing.

[mrbenblue]

The story that the character is experiencing is just that, a story... Thoughts about experience...
The True Self is the presence, felt; in this moment.no thoughts about past or future, just a tapestry of sensation arising to pass away.

[vinceschubert]

3) How does it feel to see this illusion ? describe in detail.

4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.

5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was there a specific moment when seeing happened or was it gradual? what exactly happened?

6) When you say "I", what are you referring to?

7) Is there an experiencer experiencing, or is there only experience?

Actually look. Does experience belong to the body, or does the body belong to experience?

8) What did you experience at the moment you awoke?

9) Describe your experience in the hours and days following awakening

[mrbenblue]

3) How does it feel to see this illusion ? describe in detail.

There is a sense of relief. Relief that none of this is mine. There is also a sense of wonder, amazement, openness and gratitude. There is abundance here, and Love for all. This sense of "recognition" is available for everyone.

4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.

I would ask that they notice their breath, and focus on simply being aware of the inhalation and exhalation. I would bring their attention to the "space" between breaths (before the in breath and after the out breath). I would ask them to see if they can find where one breath ends and the other begins. I would allow the person's awakening to happen naturally. I trust the unfolding of the universe. The idea is to allow the person to recognize their personhood's unTrue nature. That they, in fact, are just a thought-form. The body is breathing, there is no one there breathing the body. The universe is breathing itself.

This is the intent I'd hold when somebody is curious about the illusion.

5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was there a specific moment when seeing happened or was it gradual? what exactly happened?

I looked spontaneously. Nothing "happened". There have been several moments of unquestionable, undeniable seeing. This presence has always been here, will always be here, and is never changing. The exact moment of recognition came gradually from mounting "evidence" of this presence which is felt.

6) When you say "I", what are you referring to?

I refers to This point of view. This point of view is Consciousness. The I which is eternal. The I which is done. The I which has no me, mine, or my. The "I" which is timeless; the I which is an object in and of it's own Self.

7) Is there an experiencer experiencing, or is there only experience?

Actually look. Does experience belong to the body, or does the body belong to experience?

Only experience is real. The experiencer is the experienced. There is no "body" (save our society's habitual mental concept of one). The body is a collection of sensation. The body is an object of experience. The "body" is a collection of tools used to perceive and distort Reality. The tools, themselves, are Reality, too. The body is a costume in the physical dimension, absent of a person behind the eyes. Consciousness sees itself. The subject-object relationship (It-"Self") is one spontaneous arising.

8) What did you experience at the moment you awoke?

I experienced nothing. The awakening is happening right now. I am remembering that peace is timeless. Simply nothing. Nothing. The moment of awakening is current and visceral.

9) Describe your experience in the hours and days following awakening

The vibration of Life is everywhere. All is one. It took time to assimilate concepts and words to communicate the essence of this experience. The awakening is alive; Life is living itself; consciousness is feeling itself. Eternity is being itself now. Time-bound reality is an illusion.

[vinceschubert]

Ben,
i need to get 3 others to confirm that you have passed through the gateless gate, then you will be invited to join a Facebook group where 'gatecrashers' interact with each other.
The 'journey' continues and many find these groups useful, so "friend" me on Facebook and i will invite you to join.(when confirmation occurs)
https://www.facebook.com/vince.schubert

love vince

[mrbenblue]

Thank you! Love you

[vinceschubert]

You're very welcome Ben.
There are lots of people coming to LU now and most aren't pre-cooked like you were. They are seeking guidance.
Perhaps when you are comfortable, you might consider doing some of that. There are guideline type docs in LU Central FB group. The usual thing is to get involved in confirmations first.
No pressure to do it.

Have 2 confirmations already, just waiting on one more and you should get your invites...

[mrbenblue]

Thanks again, Vince. It was a pleasure working with you :)

[vinceschubert]

:)