good place

[graceabounds]

I also am going to point out how fast the reply came… all the thoughts of I can’t find, can’t be seen blah blah…
and then the time to type it out. not much time actually LOOKING.

What is an attitude? Look.

[daisyrain]

yeah, these B thoughts can be found.
they were simpler and more subtle.

even writing this, so many of them.

I think I should stick with looking for them for a day or two. this is valuable

[daisyrain]

not much time actually LOOKING.

something is seriously stressed here about looking 😰


Also Hi Becc!

[daisyrain]

Oh, I thought you were offline and got excited.

but back to this:

What is an attitude? Look.

it is like one of those more subtle thoughts, that are felt more than seen / heard

..

I also am going to point out how fast the reply came… all the thoughts of I can’t find, can’t be seen blah blah…
and then the time to type it out. not much time actually LOOKING.

that is very very "true".
but why would that be sooooo... avoided?
there's the assumption that it is VERY exhausting and demanding, also demanding of time.
I feel like the only reason for that is, however, that it's avoided so much. I have no doubt about that

[graceabounds]

but why would that be sooooo... avoided?

Resistance to seeing what is.

This is all very very simple. Attaching to thoughts like ‘too hard’ ‘takes too long’ and taking all that energy to fire them off in an email is what is exhausting.

Seeking means looking for something to happen in the future, while discovery means noticing what is already happening.

Discover more thought B today then.

[daisyrain]

This is all very very simple. Attaching to thoughts like ‘too hard’ ‘takes too long’ and taking all that energy to fire them off in an email is what is exhausting.

Seeking means looking for something to happen in the future, while discovery means noticing what is already happening.

For whatever reason that made things very clear. Also the looking at thought B

[daisyrain]

asking: What is here without thought then?

an immediate blackness comes and, of course, I'm typing it out here instead of looking

[daisyrain]

it feels like there's a mechanism running here, that allows thoughts to not be heard, but stored in "the body" (whatever that is), in hopes of them not "taking effect" that way. (whatever that is).

Doubt for example, or "Thought B" seems very prone to be rejected like that.

[daisyrain]

When looking it's clear, "I'm not the thinker"

[daisyrain]

it feels like there's a mechanism running here

it's a little like not employing that mechanism is what "takes effort"

[graceabounds]

it feels like there's a mechanism running here, that allows thoughts to not be heard, but stored in "the body" (whatever that is), in hopes of them not "taking effect" that way. (whatever that is).

Look more at this, can you say more about what the direct experience of ‘in the body’ is? What happens in the body?

Is it more like you consciously decide not to listen to it, or more like it is already being rejected before you can do anything about it?

[daisyrain]

can you say more about what the direct experience of ‘in the body’ is? What happens in the body?

It’s like, for example, there feeling of „dread“ is (may be) actually the confirmation thought / b thought.

And, uh, that interpretation sort of makes a door fall away. It’s like it’s dropping sensation into nothingness a little.

it is already being rejected before you can do anything about it?

This one.
With a BUT.
So, it’s like there’s opinion or attitude on what the content of the thought will be.
And there’s occasionally surprise; even thought a thought distinctly seems like it’s „harmful“ (not a good description), after „letting it express itself as thought“ it’s… it’s just over

[daisyrain]

Well, it’s just over isn’t the right way to describe that.
But it is the way it is.

[daisyrain]

it's really interesting to see how this (doesn't) interact with doubt.
Because doubt comes in every thought (well, you know, a lot of thoughts).

The content of thoughts is... surprisingly cruel also.

I feel so breathtakingly grateful to see that. astonishing really. I'm moved. There's being moved here.

If you meet Becc tell her thank you to no end. It's all actually very awe inspiring.

[graceabounds]

❤️

Does doubt come in every thought? Or is it a thought B?