Freedom of mind

[JudithB]

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
I understand this to mean there is no self, the ego is the construct developed to respond to life. There is just consciousness having an experience

What are you looking for at LU?
I am looking for a breakthrough to identification with thought and the suffering that I experience as a result of the stories of my mind.
I struggle with anxiety and I am very head centred and a friend directly me to direct pointing as a possible tool

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
To be guided to the absence of the self, to get to a 'breakthrough' in experiencing everything is I. To be directed away from dominating emotions or thoughts to the underlying truth of a more neutral observer

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
Guided meditation, mostly new age, mindfulness, contemplation (gene keys)
For about 18 yrs

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 9

[Noro]

Hello Judith,

Welcome to Liberation Unleashed.
My name is Rowena and I am happy to be your guide.

First things first, a bit of housekeeping:

1. Here at LU we assist in the exploration of the idea of the separate self. This is a guiding based on experience that brings a shift in perception and is not a debate. It directly points to what IS through the use of exercises, questions and dialogue. What is expected from you is to LOOK carefully to what is being pointed at. It is this simple LOOKING (not thinking) that brings a shift in perception.

2. Here, we are LOOKING directly into the experience of the senses, which is actually here and now, with the thinking stripped away. It is also known as Direct Experience (DE) or Actual Experience (AE). In this way, we are aiming to discover what is truly happening without the story we tell ourselves. For this process to work you have to answer with 100% honesty, and not relying on thought, imagination or memory - just reporting your direct experience. That would also mean leaving spiritual teachings, philosophies and science away during the inquiry. If you have a meditation practice, please feel free to continue with it as usual – it might come helpful.

3. Please read the following documents from LU *carefully* and let me know if you have any reservations or doubts regarding them:

http://www.liberationunleashed.com/register/disclaimer/

and "Liberation Unleashed is not …” in the FAQ’s of LU.
http://liberationunleashed.com/about/faq/#faq-1041


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7. When replying to a question it makes it a lot easier to follow the enquiry using the 'Quote Function' to highlight the questions and answers. Here's a video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fAToDNh9hQ

Throughout this exploration the questions that I would like you to answer are written in blue text. But please check and answer all questions even if I miss using the blue text!!

For the sake of the intensity of the inquiry let’s try to stick to a daily conversation. Of course, life happens, so if you need more time, please let me know. And I will do so as well.
What time zone are in? I am in Belgium which is CET

If you're okay with everything so far, we can start.



THERE IS NO SEPARATE SELF

Read or say out loud the following sentence many times:

There is no separate self, no one in control, there never has been and never will be!

Take a moment and look into your own experience of your self. Notice what you can actually find.
Can you find anything that you can name or identify that is truly yourself, that is constant and invariable?

After doing it many times, let me know what was seen, felt, discovered.

Please share only your immediate experience when you say or read those words, take note of any thoughts that are emotionally charged, even if you think they might be irrational and any sensations that are noticed in the body. Look for any contractions in head, heart or gut. Please keep to your direct experience and stay away from discussing thoughts or ideas about a separate self.


With love,

Rowena

[JudithB]

What time zone are in? I am in Belgium which is CET

Hi Rowena, thank you for your response, I live in New Zealand, which is 10 hours ahead of you

[JudithB]

If you're okay with everything so far, we can start

I am ok with everything and ready to start, I will begin today thank you