Seeing There is No Real self

[Wanderer618]

I’m in it for real. Not going anywhere! lol. I’ll keep looking. 🫶


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[Anastacia42]

Very good! Drives me nuts worn people give up.

One theory is that you're already seeing and it crept up gradually so you didn't recognize it.

Then you ended up with a lot of doubt. You've probably already watched Pernille's videos on doubt.

Loving

[Wanderer618]

Ahh I see. Yes maybe that has happened, not sure.

I watched some of her videos on doubt before. Will watch again. Is there a particular video on doubt that would be good for me to watch?

Thank you!


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[Anastacia42]

I think there are 3 of them. Your choice or all of them.

Loving

[Wanderer618]

Ok I’ll look for them! Thanks!


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[Anastacia42]

Do you still want to be guided here?

How is it going?



Loving

[Wanderer618]

Hi,

Yes, I still want to be guided here.

I'm leaving my husband and looking to move to another Hawaiian island. I have attended Vince's groups here and there still. Major life shifts are happening.

Any guidance is welcome.

[Anastacia42]

Oh my. That's a lot.

I imagine you're still doing ButtChair &maybe the DropBox pointers?

Vince's group is still great.

Do you have any questions?

No hurry.

Loving,

[Wanderer618]

I have not been doing Butt Chair or the dropbox practices. I got entirely distracted. I will begin to integrate these into my days now.

Awakening is the most important "thing" to me in my life. Truth is my compass. I don't yet know what anything looks like but the pathless path is perhaps made by walking it. I'm in this 1000%

[Anastacia42]

I LOVE your attitude & I agree with you.

You can ask me anything.

Much love,

[Wanderer618]

I want to get more directly in touch with that part of
"myself" that can truly lead me on this pathless path. To cut out more of the noise to allow that quiet place within to take the lead. Do you have any method to do this?

[Anastacia42]

Everything I've given you is a method to do this. Pick the ones you like.

Be aware, too, that quiet is not required. Just attention to direct experience & not believing in the lie of a "self." I was sitting in my car in traffic.

Here's something Vince wrote. Does any of it resonate?

The main impediment, as it shows up here, is the felt need to make something happen.

More specifically:
the seeker-pattern that keeps trying to reproduce, control, or get back to peace.

It shows up as:
wanting to know how the quiet happened
wanting to be able to do it again at will
turning calm into a result to be achieved
turning “letting go,” “surrender,” and “do nothing” into things a someone must do
looking for the right method, video, understanding, or inner move that will finally make awakening land

So if I isolate it as cleanly as possible:

Main impediment is the belief that awakening is something a “me” can produce, control, or attain in the future.

Underneath that, there’s a second layer feeding it:

The emotional flavour is the habitual orientation toward fixing discomfort and improving experience — the half-glass-empty reflex that interprets life as something that should be made different.

That is why even good pointers get turned into suffering:

“do nothing” becomes “how do I do do-nothing?”
“let go” becomes “I need to let go better”
“surrender” becomes “I must perform surrender”
a glimpse of peace becomes “how do I make that happen again?”

So the core obstacle is not lack of insight. It is not lack of practice. It is not lack of sincerity.

It is the selfing movement that immediately claims experience and tries to use it to get somewhere else.

Wanting peace is disturbing peace.
Wanting awakening is reinforcing the seeker.

The main impediment to “waking up” is the attempt to wake up.

What seems to most obstruct waking up is the deeply conditioned assumption that “I” can make it happen. You keep trying to reproduce peace, control insight, or perform surrender, and in doing so quietly reinforces the very self it longs to be free of. So the impediment is not lack of understanding, but the reflex to use every glimpse, practice, or pointer as a way to get somewhere else. In that sense, the obstacle is the effort itself — the movement of becoming, fixing, and attaining.

What if the one trying to wake up is the one being seen through?
What if the effort to arrive is what creates the sense of distance?
What if nothing is missing except the idea that something is missing?

much love

vince

Loving,