liberation for Zaya

[zaya400]

When you are not identifying with the body and thoughts—are you them?
Slow down and look. ;)

When I slow down and look, I am not my body or my thoughts. But I do have a body and thoughts, which is different.

[Lubo]

Exelent!

.When I slow down and look, I am not my body or my thoughts.

Look again in this way and notice:
Where are you?
Do you have boundary?

❤️

[zaya400]

Where are you?

I don’t know. I can’t find a me that is stable.

Do you have boundary?

My body continues seamlessly from the skin to the air around me. The boundary is porous. It’s not actually solid. Nothing in my body is actually a solid boundary. Same with my thoughts. They have no boundaries.

[Lubo]

Ok. dear Zaya, let's finish this part

I don’t know. I can’t find a me that is stable.

Look here, it’s a very simple question. You are looking for 'Liberation'—that is the name of your thread.

Now, notice this 'me'. Is there anything else to it other than an idea of what you should be, and the effort of trying to fit into that idea?

Do you have boundary?

My body continues seamlessly from the skin to the air around me.

The same very simple question. You say 'My body':

1. My body, my car, my money... are you them?

2. Why are you trying to fit yourself into a body, into money, or into relationships?

If you leave all these behind for just one second—everything you try to identify with, including your thoughts—what is revealed?

Is there a real 'me' without the idea that there should be one?

Are you the body, without the idea that you should be the body?
Love,
Lubo

[zaya400]

I see what you mean.. but whose body is it? Whose thoughts are they? I feel that the body is here. I register sensations like heat, heart pounding, sound, etc. The thoughts arise and somehow make sense. Who do they make sense to? Who is understanding the thoughts? Is the one understanding the thoughts outside the body mind? Or maybe there is no one at all. Then what is there?

[zaya400]

I forgot to say Thank you, Lubo. ❤️😊

[Lubo]

I forgot to say Thank you, Lubo. ❤️😊

I can feel your gratitude, and it’s deeply felt here too. It is highly appreciated! ❤️

I see what you mean.. but whose body is it? Whose thoughts are they? I feel that the body is here. I register sensations like heat, heart pounding, sound, etc. The thoughts arise and somehow make sense. Who do they make sense to? Who is understanding the thoughts? Is the one understanding the thoughts outside the body mind? Or maybe there is no one at all. Then what is there?

Notice how there is an underlying assumption that there should be a body for thoughts to make sense. But don’t trust my words—find out for yourself. What is your actual experience right now?

notice:

Why do thoughts need to make sense?

What is behind them?

What is the reason for this 'making sense'?
is it the same ?

There is a wonderful way to realize everything without seeking with the mind.

Feel the contraction in your body. Usually, this is suppressed power, anger, or raw life force, though at first, you won't recognize it as such. Meet this contraction. Notice how it’s immediately labeled as a 'problem' that needs to be solved or surgically removed.

But this contraction is your door.

Instead of escaping into the mind, do the opposite: Hold onto this contraction as if you are in the middle of the ocean and it’s the only thing you can grab onto for security. Normally we run away from it; this time, stay. Hold it.

Second: Don’t be interested in how 'bad' or 'scary' this part is. Be interested in how erotic it is. For just one second, drop the fear and feel the raw, erotic intensity of everything around you and within you. Look there.

So much Love to you,
Lubo

[zaya400]

Thanks Lubo.

I did what you suggested and felt into the contraction and stayed with it. I could feel it turn into an erotic energy when I dropped the resistance and the story. It was intense! It actually felt good and freeing.

Why do thoughts need to make sense?

What is behind them?

What is the reason for this 'making sense'?
is it the same ?

This part confuses me. Thoughts need to make sense so that the world makes sense. Behind the thoughts is an awareness of the thoughts. Or maybe what I think is awareness is just more subtler thoughts trying to make sense of thoughts.

Much love,
Zaya

[Lubo]

So happy to hear how you're opening to eros so fully Zaya. So liberating!

This part confuses me. Thoughts need to make sense so that the world makes sense. Behind the thoughts is an awareness of the thoughts. Or maybe what I think is awareness is just more subtler thoughts trying to make sense of thoughts.

Notice how thoughts and "making sense" appear. Notice how identification tries to grab them. Now, look closer.

Look above and behind the body.
What is it that prevents this form from dissolving into molecules, atoms, and electrons right now?
Is there a "person" holding it all together? Or is it something else?

See how identification falls away the moment you truly look.
And notice how from erotic power we are this body appear?

Much Love,
Lubo

[zaya400]

Hi Lubo,

Look above and behind the body.
What is it that prevents this form from dissolving into molecules, atoms, and electrons right now?
Is there a "person" holding it all together? Or is it something else?

The entire universe is preventing this form from dissolving. There is no person holding it all together. When I look I see a whole process in motion.

See how identification falls away the moment you truly look.
And notice how from erotic power we are this body appear?

There is still a me even when I look. It feels less solid though and I don’t feel attached to my thoughts as much.

I feel energy running through me. My entire body is filled with it.

Much love,
Zaya

[Lubo]

There is still a me even when I look

How can you discribe this me? Is it mortal?

[zaya400]

The me feels like a vantage point somewhere in my brain that is making sense of things and helping me to do things. I’m not sure if it’s mortal. It likes to think it’s not!

[Lubo]

It’s like sobering up.
Look at your surroundings for just one second—a room, for example—and look at yourself:
What room? What searching? What brain? What nonsense!


What is your experience?

Love,
Lubo

[zaya400]

Hi Lubo,

When I look around my experience is pretty much the same. I see a room. It's here. Walls and furniture. When I look at myself I feel sensations. I can see my hands typing this. I hear thoughts arise and then they pass. more come and go. I continue to type this and I hear the wind outside my window at the same time. everything is happening at once. I can witness it happening from the vantage point of this body/mind.

Love,
Zaya

[Lubo]

Excellent!

When I look at myself I feel sensations

We are the life force. You report the same - When I look at my self I am sensations.
The shortest way to dive into your being and wake up is to recognize yourself as deeply erotic. This recognition instantly transforms ordinary shame and fear, allowing us to become whole and helping the 'us' to finally awaken.

The steps are:

Connect with the deep eroticism that we fundamentally are.

Connect with every feeling within you as a singular, existentially erotic expression of you.

I am with you,
Lubo