Guide for Liberation Unleashed

[zosiaty]

Hi Stacy,

Can you see that? What do you feel in your stomach area?

Yea, I can see that. My stomach area feels relaxed.

Zosia

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

Good.

From a couple of days ago:

with the realisation there is no self no self to be found, the sensations of lightness, expansion, empty space. I continue bursting into exhales of loud sounds-laughter and the lightes of just being

Can you now say 100% that there is no "self?"

Is there anything left to seek?

Loving,

[zosiaty]

Hi Stacy,

Can you now say 100% that there is no "self?"

Yes, I can see that there is no self and I can sense lightness and joy, and know this is true.

Is there anything left to seek?

There’s nothing left to seek.

Thank you,
Zosia

[Anastacia42]

Excellent, Zosia. We have some traditional checkpoint questions for you. Other guides will read these & may have questions.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

Are you answering these checkpoint questions?

Much love

[zosiaty]

Hi Stacy,

Yes, I will. I’ve been working every single day including today. Will get to it when I have some space for it.

Zosia

[Anastacia42]

Sounds good. Just checking in.

[zosiaty]

Hi Stacy,

I apologise for the delay, there was a lot of content of my life to deal with. Here are my answers to the questions:

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No, there is no separate entity, no 'self', 'me' or 'I'. It was never there.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

The illusion of separate self is believing or identifying with the 'self' that doesn't exist, and from there acting ,protecting and defending that 'self' as if it really existed. It is believing that there is 'self' that is in control and makes decisions. The illusion starts when there is a thought 'I' and there is some importance given to it.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

(I'm reporting from the past few exercises at there was a long gap) It feels freeing, it feels light and expansive, it feels like there is more ease. Before seeing this there was more tightness, attachment to how things should be and how I want my life to be, need for control and holding on to what I have. Now I feel sense of freedom to let things be how they are and be present to see clearly how they are rather than imposing my view and expectations on them.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

The stress of need for control, and the tighness and heaviness of it.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

There is a sense of a gentle surfacing of subtle energy which then appears in the mind as decision. Eg. I needed to buy a new laptop and I felt what feels light and good at every step, which brand in which shop , what payment option etc. when I arrived to all those elements coming together I felt a sense if lightness, gentle joy and spaciousness, the decision was clear to I confirmed the purchase.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Intention felt like gentle sense of warmth and joy arising. There was an intention to get a new laptop, the sense of a pleasure of having device that's fast and easy to use, the sense of lightness and ease that came and the thought of new laptop.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

I needed to make a decision on ending a project. I could feel the truth of this, the lightness of knowing that this decision emerged over the time and the clarity of it by listening to what is true and what is false. There was also sadness, and attachment to what I have in that profect. I have a free will to decide if I'm going to follow the attachment and the heaviness that feels when I think of continuing or to choose the truth and the decision to end it.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Choice is following one option from many available options. I've had a choice to take a bus or a train and different time and price options, the decision happened when I was looking at different options and felt more lightness with one of them. The decision happened and the choice was to folllow that decision.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

Control is a sense of forcefulness, of thoughts that are resisting what is and want to change it. Control comes from the believe in separate self, and it's needs that must be met. Eg. me wanting someone to be different then they are.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

Things happen by itself, the move in a perfect flow with all other things in currents of connection and conditions.

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

I'm responsible for choosing to not to resist the truth and be in the flow of life that happens on it's own, without imposing my own expectations of it. I have free will to choose to follow it or not.

6) Anything to add?

No.

Thank you,
Zosia

[Anastacia42]

Good morning!

I liked your wording that there is "a lot of content" to deal with in life right now.

Your answers are good until you get to #5 about control, intention, decisions and free will.

Do you remember the Palm Flipping pointer? Please review that one to understand what we are asking here.

Yes, we lean toward the lightness and clarity of the truth feeling; however, do "we" really make decisions? Does free will exist in Direct Experience? Sam Harris, a neuroscientist, and author of "Waking Up," wrote a whole book on this topic.

https://www.amazon.com/Free-Will-Deckle ... 118&sr=8-1

Here is another pointer to help you:


Drink Exercise

The aim of the following exercise is to discover whether the function of choice can really be found or confirmed in actual experience. The idea of making ‘choices‘ is a very clear example of a function that we wrongly identify as the basis of our identity.

Here's what’s needed - a chair, a table and two different drinks. Any two drinks you like are okay for this: coffee, tea, milk, water, juices, smoothies, beer, wine, etc.

Preparation - Place the two drinks side by side on the table in front of you, sit comfortably on the chair and mentally label them as drink A and drink B.

Experiment - Finding the function of choice

Sit for a few moments, take a few relaxed breaths and let the dust settle. When you feel ready:

1. Look at drink A and at drink B. Think about their respective qualities, the things you like about them, compare and weigh the pros and cons of each. See if a preference is manifesting for one or the other.

2. Count to 5.

3. Choose one of the drinks. Pick it up and take a sip.

Questions:

Remember that we’re looking for some kind of function, a something, an ‘I’ which is doing the ‘choosing’.

In step 1 when thinking about their respective qualities, did you ‘choose’ the qualities? Or did they kind of appear by themselves? If some preferences manifested, did you ‘choose’ these preferences? Or did they just pop up by themselves?

In step 2 when you counted to 5, if the preferences took the back seat while the numbers took the front seat, did you ‘choose’ this sequence of event? Did you ‘choose’ to shut down the preferences to give way to the counting?

Did you directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Have you seen this function in action?

In step 3 where you made a choice, did you actually witness or directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Did anything arise that announced, ‘I am the chooser’? If so, what does this function look like?

Sometimes we describe this sense of choosing as a ‘feeling’ as you did: It feels like ‘I’ did the 'choosing’. But the question is, can a feeling ‘choose’? Is it in the nature of a feeling to 'choose’?

Take your time. I understand you've gotten busy.

Loving,

[zosiaty]

Hi Stacy,

I apologise for taking so long again to look into the guidance.

Do you remember the Palm Flipping pointer?

Yes, I've reviewed the exercise now to see it more clearly.

do "we" really make decisions? Does free will exist in Direct Experience?

In direct experience, there is no decision-making point; the decision happens, and the palm is flipped without any thought process or decision from 'me'.


Drink Exercise

In step 1 when thinking about their respective qualities, did you ‘choose’ the qualities? Or did they kind of appear by themselves? If some preferences manifested, did you ‘choose’ these preferences? Or did they just pop up by themselves?

The qualities just appeared; I didn't really choose them. The preferences were just there, just emerged spontaneously.

In step 2 when you counted to 5, if the preferences took the back seat while the numbers took the front seat, did you ‘choose’ this sequence of event? Did you ‘choose’ to shut down the preferences to give way to the counting?

I just started counting, and the preferences naturally just kind of went to the back of the mind.

Did you directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Have you seen this function in action?

No, the choice was just there; it was just obvious, it didn't require any active choosing from me.

In step 3 where you made a choice, did you actually witness or directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Did anything arise that announced, ‘I am the chooser’? If so, what does this function look like?

There was nothing that arose as a 'chooser', no one that made the choice, the choice was just there, the hand reached out and brought the cup to the mouth.

Sometimes we describe this sense of choosing as a ‘feeling’ as you did: It feels like ‘I’ did the 'choosing’. But the question is, can a feeling ‘choose’? Is it in the nature of a feeling to 'choose’?

Feeling can't choose, the 'feeling' I've described was an awareness of the choice, not what made the choice.

Thank you,
Zosia

[Anastacia42]

Good.

Now look at #5 above & write what is true.

Loving,

[zosiaty]

Hi Stacy,

Thank you for your reply.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Decision is a spontaneous occurrence that is experienced, there is no one who makes the decision. Eg when I've seen an email informing me of your reply on the forum, I just reached out for my laptop to see and reply to the message. I've noticed thoughts questioning if this is a good time, but thoughts were just thoughts; the decision already happened.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Intention arises spontaneously. I've had a lunch break at work, the intention to have something to eat arose, and then the decision to get up and go get lunch (action happened)

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Free will is an illusion that there is someone who makes decisions; there is no one and no free will.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Choice arises spontaneously; we can make a pros and cons list, but that doesn't make a choice, choice is a natural and spontaneous sense of preference. Eg. to get lunch, I got up and walked to the cafe that I felt a preference towards.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

Control doesn't exist, we may have an illusory sense of control, but never real control. There is no one who is in control, things happen without any control. When I reach out for a cup of coffee, there is no one who controls the body to do that, it is a spontaneous action.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

There is no one, no 'God' or 'self' that makes things happen; they occur spontaneously, without anyone deciding or choosing what is supposed to happen. Things occur by themselves.

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

If there is no one who makes the decision or choice, or who is in control, then there is no one who is responsible. I'm not responsible for anything, as everything occurs by itself. At this moment, I'm unable to give examples, I can't see that as my experience. I would appreciate your help with that.

Thank you,
Zosia

[Anastacia42]

Good morning, Zosia,

Nice. Doesn't that feel truer? (Light, expansive, relaxed?)

Your replies will be shared with other guides who may have questions. Stay tuned!

Loving,
Stacy

[zosiaty]

Hi Stacy,

Yes, it does feel truer.

Thank you for your guidance.

Best wishes,
Zosia

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

While I do not like asking a pile of questions all at once, another guide is asking:

She says: I have a few questions all related to the same answer: "It feels freeing, it feels light and expansive, it feels like there is more ease. Before seeing this there was more tightness, attachment to how things should be and how I want my life to be, need for control and holding on to what I have. Now I feel sense of freedom to let things be how they are and be present to see clearly how they are rather than imposing my view and expectations on them."

Right now, is there any ‘you’ left at the center of experience?

Can you find a witness? An experiencer?

Can anything in that report exist without thought narrating it?

Is there anyone left to be free?

What is the difference between “tightness” and “expansiveness”

When “tightness” is here—what’s actually present?

And when “expansiveness” is here?

What makes one more “true” than the other and who is it happening to?

Or is there just this sensation, then this one, then this one…all equally empty, equally unclaimed?

You don’t need to get rid of tightness. You don’t need to chase expansiveness.

You only need to see: neither were ever happening to “you.”

(Sorry! )

Loving,