Awakening in London UK

[Adam2271]

I was just tidying the kitchen, and I caught myself having an imaginary argument with my sister. Does this mean an idea of self is still persisting? Perhaps thoughts and habits might still occur?

Thanks

[Anastacia42]

watch these, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

Loving

[Adam2271]

Thanks Stacy, these are helpful!

Is it final question time?

[Anastacia42]

Yes, if you can say 100% there's no separate "self. "



1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?



Loving,

[Adam2271]

Thanks Stacy! This is a long one, I appreciate all your time.

Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

I can't find a separate self in my experience, only the field of awareness which contains sensations/experiences from the five senses, and thoughts. All of that is one flowing whole. There was never a true separate self, only the illusion of one

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.,

From the perspective of the thinking mind, the illusion of the separate self has always been there. It was reinforced/maintained by family, wider culture and by language (subjects, objects, verbs). The separate self illusion is made up of thoughts, beliefs, habits. It has no substance and cannot be found either in the body or in direct experience. The illusion perpetuates itself through worries/thoughts about an imagined past and future, neither of which exist.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

I feel the same yet different, difficult to describe! When closing my eyes in meditation, I notice a new full emptiness, it feels infinite. While I can still feel the skin, there feels to be a flowing continuation of sensations that used to be clearly labelled as inside me and outside 'me'. I feel no longer fully contained within the body. I am more tired than usual which may be some resistance.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

One morning the difference between thinking about the exercise vs feeling/looking into them seemed to 'click' and I felt a real difference between buying into thought which felt so contracted, and the spaciousness of not identifying with thought. I had some moments of complete freedom recognising that no story about 'me' was ever true, and ever referred to anything really - either 'my' own stories about me, or anyone else's.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Decision is mysterious , various thoughts occur and a course of action is undertaken. Decision is not mental, as a 'decision' sometimes feels mentally set, and then in the moment the body does something else. Actions which feel aligned / resonant with an expansive/ joyful /true seeming feeling become more evident - so going with the flow of life feels better /easier

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Intention is a story fitted to past action / future wants to make them 'make sense' to the mind, to reassure the mind that it has an aim it is working towards

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

There is no I to have free will. Life and actions occur. Whatever happens is the thing that happened. Everything is linked /part of a whole so there can't be any independent actor somehow outside it all.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Thoughts occur and courses of action are taken. One thought (about a course of action) can feel more deeply true / resonate energetically within the body, so that course of action is sometimes taken.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

Ultimately, control of the physical world or health of the body is an illusion. Anything could happen at any time

What makes things happen? How does it work?

Nothing makes things happen, they just do - creation, continuation and death/dissolution are observable inherent properties of the universe. There is a flow to things which can be tuned into

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

I cannot be responsible for any specific outcome as control does not exist. Contributions to people / activities occur intuitively in a way that feels 'right'.

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

No one had any questions. Good work!

Watch for an email inviting you to our Facebook group. You can still attend any of our 3 teleconference meetings. And here are 2 videos to watch:

Also, watch these, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4


Much love,

[Anastacia42]

Oops, I've already sent those videos.

[Adam2271]

Thanks Stacy!

So to confirm we are done with this part of the 'process'?

How do I access the teleconferences?

Thanks again for all your time and help!

Adam

[Anastacia42]

You're welcome. Our conversation here is complete.

Watch your private messages for more information.

Also, here are links to teleconferences & if you'll friend me on Facebook, I can invite you to the Fetter-Free group. I'm Stacy Clark in Colorado.


There are 3 meetings & a set of 5 videos you're invited to attend:

Thursday Meetings.

Hi Guys,

we are Luchana & Lubo, guides at LU.

Here is an invitation for you:

Join us each Thursday, 6 pm CET, UTC+1
and let's explore together what is already here.
Let's enjoy together this beauty called Life
MEETINGS ARE ON ZOOM and LIVE on youtube.

To participate in the meetings, send a request to luchanauzunova@gmail.com

You will receive an e-mail confirming your participation and a link to join.

Looking forward to seeing YOU!
Luchana & Lubo
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Meet up with vince (For LU seekers & guides)

Monday August 14

Sydney (est) Australia. 6 am right now
Every 2 weeks after that.

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86991485768?p ... 12Um5DQT09

Meeting ID: 869 9148 5768
Passcode: 083035

Let him know if you want email reminders.
vinceschubert@gmail.com

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Ilona's Meetings

Next group meeting on Zoom is on the 4th of September. (There was one October 9. Not sure when next one is. )

To register send Ilona an email to

admin@ilonaciunaite.com

Looking forward :)


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Hi everyone.

Starting on 15th of October for 5 weeks I will post a new video of guiding sessions we had with Jim.
Here is a link to the first one.

https://youtu.be/gb6FwZ6PlI4

Liberation Unleashed Direct Pointing - The Gateless Gate

Ilona

Write to them for the next meeting.Ilona's is April 9th.

For Fetters:

Todd has teleconference group that meets - I think every 2 weeks. I can invite you to that group on Facebook where the notices are posted. What is your FB name?

There is also www.findingawakening.com but Christine has a waiting list.

And Kevin Shinilac has https://www.simplytheseen.com/ but I don't think he is guiding any more, although there are instructions on his site.

Much love,

[Adam2271]

Thanks Stacy for all your help and the resources!

I am adamwinter83 on Facebook

Adam x

[Anastacia42]

You're more than welcome!

Keep in mind that the only time you can "lose it" is when you believe a false thought. You'll know because you'll have that tight , contracted lie feeling. Question that thought & peace returns. A good method is The Work of Byron Katie. There are others.

Enjoy the tantra reowing,

oving,

[Adam2271]

Thanks Stacy! Wishing you all best :)

Adam x