Not seeing just one

[cosmiK]

Hey Valerie. Just checking in - all good?

[Valerie]

Yes, thank u. Awareness Is busy being everything. I don't usually dream, but there is this very clear happening in my dreams for the last few nights. I will share more later. Thank u.

[cosmiK]

Hey Valerie,

no worries. Please refer to my last post when you do have a chance to respond. It contains many pointers, as well as questions. Please use those as you exercises/aids of investigation and answer directly from your Experience when you do.

with Love.

[Valerie]

Is there anything looking? or is looking just happening. Is there a seer? perceiver? or only the perceived?

Looking, seeing, and perceiving are just happening. Body is just a perception within awareness. Everything happens within awareness. It really doesn't feel any different. I had a different concept of experiencing a loss of self, yet all these concepts are also happening with in awareness. The entity me is no where to be found.

Feel your body against the chair and legs against the floor... Is there really a "body" and "floor" and "chair" and "computer"... or is there just Experience, just sensations, just a sense of Aliveness, and just some thoughts that label this Experience.

Body, floor, chair, hand, computer are all labels for the experience.

[cosmiK]

Hey Valerie,

Looking, seeing, and perceiving are just happening. Body is just a perception within awareness. Everything happens within awareness. It really doesn't feel any different.

Great. Now...

is this awareness personal? if so... where is the claimant?

is there any actual separation or difference between awareness and what is experienced?

Is this awareness You? or "I"?

I had a different concept of experiencing a loss of self, yet all these concepts are also happening with in awareness. The entity me is no where to be found.

Right, experiences come and go. The sense of self may remain after Awakening from the illusion, yet, it is clear that regardless of any experience, or regardless of a sense of self, there is no self, no you, just Life flowing and moving. no separate experience-er, just that shifting experience, Alive and Expressive.

Let's try this...
close your eyes... watch thoughts come and go. Is there a thinker of thoughts? Can YOU think and choose a thought?

with Love.

[Valerie]

Is this awareness personal? If so... Where is the claimant

It is not personal. There is no claimant. There is no separation between awareness and what is experienced. It is not u or I .
There is no thinker of thoughts. Thoughts just arise and fall at random. There is a bodily sensation of no boundary between body and what is seen during parts of the day. Thanks for guiding cosmic. Valerie

[cosmiK]

Valerie,

sounds like you are coming along well, let's gain a bit more clarity and focus:

"In the seen, there is only the seen,
in the heard, there is only the heard,
in the sensed, there is only the sensed,
in the cognized, there is only the cognized.
Thus you should see that
indeed there is no thing here;
this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
Since, Bahiya, there is for you
in the seen, only the seen,
in the heard, only the heard,
in the sensed, only the sensed,
in the cognized, only the cognized,
and you see that there is no thing here,
you will therefore see that
indeed there is no thing there.
As you see that there is no thing there,
you will see that
you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
nor in the world of that,
nor in any place
betwixt the two.
This alone is the end of suffering.” (ud. 1.10)
- Buddha.

~~

So Valerie, apply this to Experiencing, moment to moment, here&now:

In seeing, there is only the seen.
In hearing, there is only the heard.
In feeling, there is only the felt.
In tasting, there is only the tasted.
In smelling, there is only the smelled.
In thinking, there is only thought.

In essence, in this appearance, here&now, there is only the appearance,
In essence, in this experience, there is only the experience, including the experience of an experience-er, which is also experience, thus, there is only this Experiencing.
no You, just this Experience.
--

Spend some quality time with this. And get back to me with what comes up.

[Valerie]

In essence, in this appearance, here&now, there is only the appearance,
In essence, in this experience, there is only the experience, including the experience of an experience-er, which is also experience, thus, there is only this Experiencing.
no You, just this Experience

Yes, I see this and can't find a me seeing. Just this experience. Mind wants to label immediately still. Thank you.

[cosmiK]

Hey Valerie,

great. When you say "you see this"... WHAT is seeing this? :)

When you refer to 'mind', deconstruct it. some sensations maybe labelled head, and a stream of thoughts? does it ever matter what thoughts arise? do thoughts need to stop? is there ever anything wrong with them arising?

thoughts label, that is their main function.

is there anything missing in this moment?

is there a YOU anywhere, in any form?

is there separation anywhere?

[Valerie]

great. When you say "you see this"... WHAT is seeing this? :)

I have no idea, whatever is looking.
Nothing wrong with thoughts arising. I just thought (ha, ha) they would relax or slow down, maybe take some time off.
There is no me in any way shape or form. There is no separation anywhere, but someone is still on the look out for it. Have a happy weekend :) Thank you

[cosmiK]

Valerie,

I understand the desire to calm/slow down thoughts, once separation is seen through, those things take care of themselves. we can also work on this as an inquiry/issue AFTER we finish this process. We have many Facebook groups with several other post-gaters and guides to support your growth and chat/discuss/inquire and play afterwards. Stay with me and this process for now :)

the important thing is that you SEE that Experience, as thoughts/sensations/emotions/whatever, arises to noone, arises to nothing. Whatever appears, whatever happens, it appears and happens, to noone.

So, it seems like you are very clear and have seen through the illusion. However, would you please clarify these 2:

There is no separation anywhere, but someone is still on the look out for it.

is there someone/something there that is still looking?

I have no idea, whatever is looking.

is it that there is a 'whatever' looking, or is looking just happening?

You tell me where you are with investigating separation/self, and we can work from there.

If there are no more doubts, and you have indeed SEEn, we can move to the final questions. If not, we can address any doubts or concerns you have,

with Love.

[Valerie]

Hey Cosmick,
Ok. So I feel like I am sure there is no separation. I can't find where I end and outside begins. I have spent extra time (?) looking. There is only looking, looking. It was cool the other nite I was sitting still and quiet with the intention of looking, looking. While looking out the window, a large bug flew down and hit the floor with a bug sound and my eyes moved by themselves to see where the sound was. there was this immediate awareness that I didn't do the looking. It happened on its own. It was kind a weird actually, but no mistaken it. Thanks, valerie

[cosmiK]

Hey Valerie,

Yes! It all happens on it's own :)

Have you seen through the illusion of a separation self / separation?

It is usually an unmistakable yet subtle shift. If you still need to continue the investigation, then let me know what angle you would like to pursue/tackle.

Talk to me :)

with Love.

[Valerie]

Have you seen through the illusion of a separation self / separation?

I think so, but I cant think of any defining moment. I feel like there is this experience of body that is just an object like a tree or a cat actively living life, doing its own thing. it is more like I am the space in which all these objects appear. The space thing kinda feels odd though. :) Valerie

[cosmiK]

Hey Valerie,

Nice. A few clarifications.

I think so, but I cant think of any defining moment. I feel like there is this experience of body that is just an object like a tree or a cat actively living life, doing its own thing. it is more like I am the space in which all these objects appear. The space thing kinda feels odd though. :) Valerie

is there anything personal in Experience?

is the body "I"/me?

is this space "you"?

What does "Valerie" refer to?

Is there an actual separate "I" or "me" ?


with Love.