Looking for the truth

[CarefulDog88]

Hi Frik,

an illusionary explanation for the discomfort in my body.

This has come up a few times, lets look at this discomfort.

Where is this discomfort in the body, is it all over or in a particular place, the abdomen or the chest, or neck?
Can you describe this discomfort in physical Direct Experience ie. a tightness or heat or cold, contracting?
Is this discomfort constant or is it intermittent?
What is sensed in this discomfort?

Sit quitely for 10 mins, close the eyes and relax into the body, ask yourself what is experiencing this discomfort?
As soon as you ask the question wait and don't look for an answer, just see what comes up.

In the first instance after you ask the question there will be a silence before the mind starts thinking, this silence is where you will find the truth, sit in this for as long as you can and see what comes up or doesn't come up.

You can repeat the question to help you relax back into that silence.

Please answer these questions again after this 10 minutes sitting.
Where is this discomfort in the body, is it all over or in a particular place, the abdomen or the chest, or neck?
Can you describe this discomfort in physical Direct Experience ie. a tightness or heat or cold, contracting?
Is this discomfort constant or is it intermittent?
What is sensed in this discomfort?

[Raph]

Hi Paul

Where is this discomfort in the body, is it all over or in a particular place, the abdomen or the chest, or neck?

In the chest, stomach and kidney area.

Can you describe this discomfort in physical Direct Experience ie. a tightness or heat or cold, contracting?

Tightness and pressure.

Is this discomfort constant or is it intermittent?

Fluctuating

quote]What is sensed in this discomfort?[/quote]

Not sure

Please answer these questions again after this 10 minutes sitting.
Where is this discomfort in the body, is it all over or in a particular place, the abdomen or the chest, or neck?

Diaphragm

Can you describe this discomfort in physical Direct Experience ie. a tightness or heat or cold, contracting?

Tightness and pressure.

Is this discomfort constant or is it intermittent?

Yes, it comes and goes like waves never completely stopping but peaking in acute pain. When it subsides it is accompanied by a release of air, burping.

What is sensed in this discomfort?

Not sure

[CarefulDog88]

Hi Frik,

Is this discomfort constant or is it intermittent?

Yes, it comes and goes like waves never completely stopping but peaking in acute pain. When it subsides it is accompanied by a release of air, burping.

During the day Investigate both pleasant and unpleasant experiences in the body. To see if there is anyone present they belong to, or anyone that they are about. report what you find

[Raph]

Hi Paul

During the day Investigate both pleasant and unpleasant experiences in the body. To see if there is anyone present they belong to, or anyone that they are about. report what you find

They are not about anyone and they belong to no one.

Thank you
Frik

[CarefulDog88]

Hi Frik,
Lets look at the body, and see what can come up for you.
Find “me” in the body

Find a comfortable place to sit or lie.
Take in a few deep breaths to settle the dust and then relax for a bit.
Spend only 30 to 60 seconds on each component of this exercise.
Bring your awareness to your entire body - sense it fully, head to toe.
Run your hands down over your torso. Feel the solidity of it.
Now bring your awareness to your feet. Again, feel them. Move them a bit. Then bring your awareness to your hands. Open and close them.
Bring your awareness to your face - all of it. Touch it with your hand.
Now point your index finger to where "Frik" is located.
Touch the exact location of "Frik".
Answer these questions:
Were you able to find and feel "Frik" in a direct way like the other parts of your body?
Where is it?
What did you find? Something? Anything? Nothing?
What sensations did you feel in your body that identified "Frik” (If any). Tell me what you experienced and found, by way of direct experience.

[Raph]

Hi Paul

Were you able to find and feel "Frik" in a direct way like the other parts of your body?

No

Where is it?

Nowhere

What did you find? Something? Anything? Nothing?

Nothing

What sensations did you feel in your body that identified "Frik” (If any).

None

Tell me what you experienced and found, by way of direct experience.

Without thought, sensations arise and fall away without any story connected to "Frik".

[CarefulDog88]

Hi Frik,

Tell me what you experienced and found, by way of direct experience.

Without thought, sensations arise and fall away without any story connected to "Frik".

Now, is there a clear ability for the experiencing of thought to be seen as stories that don't have any reality to them, are they recognized as an illusion?.
Are body sensations Directly Experienced?
Is it clear that emotions (Anger Frustration hatred Doubt etc) arise from body sensations + thought stories and are equally illusive? ( if this is unclear, then take thought out of the equation of the emotion and what do you get)

Take 5 mins and sit in a quite place, eyes closed, relax into the body. Observe the sensations.
Ask what is my next thought?
Wait for the answer and in this space between the question and the answer, what is there? repeat as often as possible please.

[CarefulDog88]

Hi Frik,
Just as a side note, there are zoom meetings that happen regularly during the week and you are more than welcome to join any of them and take part or sit on the sideline no pressure.

This is the link and it is the same link each time


There is one each Saturday at 9pm (Sydney time – AEDT)
One each Wednesday at 3pm (AEDT)
There is also one each Monday 6 am Sydney DAYLIGHT SAVING time – AEDT
Please note that it’s always the same time on the same link
 Arriving late and leaving early is fine.
You can convert time zones here;https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/
Click here to Join https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86991485768?p ... 12Um5DQT09

Meeting ID: 869 9148 5768
Passcode: 083035

[CarefulDog88]

If you have any questions about the meetings just ask.
They are experienced guides at the meeting that are attending to questions from clients which are waiting to get a guide from LU or those that want a more connected interaction along with the written dialogues.
A very informal zone where you can feel relaxed and is additional to our dialogue.

[Raph]

Hi Paul

Thank you for the Zoom link, ill look into it.

Ask what is my next thought?
Wait for the answer and in this space between the question and the answer, what is there? repeat as often as possible please.

My body is experiencing an almost burning sensation on the skin.

Thank you
Frik

[CarefulDog88]

Hi Frik,

My body is experiencing an almost burning sensation on the skin.

This sounds serious, Is there a possible medical condition that needs attending to?

[Raph]

Hi Paul

No, not medical.

Thank you
Frik

[CarefulDog88]

Hi Frik,
Good to hear, was a bit worried there.

[CarefulDog88]

This body sensation you described does sound very amplified, would it be possible to say more about this experience?

[Raph]

Hi Paul

I have decided to take a break for a while and try again in the future.

Thank you very much for all your help.

Frik