Joy of Experiencing

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Primrose9
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Re: Joy of Experiencing

Postby Primrose9 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:36 am

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
This takes some introspection. In order for there to be responsibility there would need to be "someone" being responsible.
When I look for who would be the one being responsible there is no one there. I have been a very responsible "person" in my life so this one is is catching. Yet all is just flowing and moving and changing inside of a calm space. This is not the way it feels all the time. When in the course of an active day with social interactions I find that I am pretty much doing what I always did before and not always aware of the calm space but it is much more apparent than is was before and there is a much deeper looking that is present more than before also. Prior to this guidance conversation we have been having I would have said that I am not responsible for what happens in life but am responsible for how I "choose" to respond to what happens. So it seems that responsibility is another way for the thinker to think it is choosing. With each one of these questions I find that it gets a bit sticky again and I have to look deeper and then if I'm looking deeper I then again want to look at who is looking.
As I write this I'm seeing once again that responsibility is just happening and choosing to respond is just happening like everything else. I do feel I am being responsible in life as a mother, and wife, etc. and even in following up on the rules of LU by responding everyday. Life does take some responsibility to just show up and do what needs to be done just to survive and go on day to day, yet I see that it is all just responsibility happening, arising and falling and moving and changing with everything that flows in the oneness of life. That is a relief and feels much more relaxing.

6) Anything to add?
I find it interesting that with each question I needed to keep looking to remove the layering of the language of identification. Responsibility and choice are so imbedded in even our more conscious current self help and spiritual culture so it takes something to pierce that veil continuously. My experience though is that once this is seen through it feels so much better that it starts to go on a kind of ongoing self correction. For some it is a pop into it, for me it has been very gradual and any time the mind tries to question the seeing through it I only need to look again. And every time I look again the mind wants to know who is looking, but that is just a thought. I notice I may need some help with this again even though It is just a thought. Sorry to end up here in a loop or a blank. There is some layer holding on I guess. It feels like a void. So that is actually a good place to be. The one looking is always the nothing space. The mind will never make sense of this though it keeps trying. The mind can not enter the mystery so it just goes quiet and settling into the nothing space happens.

Thank you!!

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Re: Joy of Experiencing

Postby Primrose9 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:36 am

Good Evening,
What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
This takes some introspection. In order for there to be responsibility there would need to be "someone" being responsible.
When I look for who would be the one being responsible there is no one there. I have been a very responsible "person" in my life so this one is is catching. Yet all is just flowing and moving and changing inside of a calm space. This is not the way it feels all the time. When in the course of an active day with social interactions I find that I am pretty much doing what I always did before and not always aware of the calm space but it is much more apparent than is was before and there is a much deeper looking that is present more than before also. Prior to this guidance conversation we have been having I would have said that I am not responsible for what happens in life but am responsible for how I "choose" to respond to what happens. So it seems that responsibility is another way for the thinker to think it is choosing. With each one of these questions I find that it gets a bit sticky again and I have to look deeper and then if I'm looking deeper I then again want to look at who is looking.
As I write this I'm seeing once again that responsibility is just happening and choosing to respond is just happening like everything else. I do feel I am being responsible in life as a mother, and wife, etc. and even in following up on the rules of LU by responding everyday. Life does take some responsibility to just show up and do what needs to be done just to survive and go on day to day, yet I see that it is all just responsibility happening, arising and falling and moving and changing with everything that flows in the oneness of life. That is a relief and feels much more relaxing.

6) Anything to add?
I find it interesting that with each question I needed to keep looking to remove the layering of the language of identification. Responsibility and choice are so imbedded in even our more conscious current self help and spiritual culture so it takes something to pierce that veil continuously. My experience though is that once this is seen through it feels so much better that it starts to go on a kind of ongoing self correction. For some it is a pop into it, for me it has been very gradual and any time the mind tries to question the seeing through it I only need to look again. And every time I look again the mind wants to know who is looking, but that is just a thought. I notice I may need some help with this again even though It is just a thought. Sorry to end up here in a loop or a blank. There is some layer holding on I guess. It feels like a void. So that is actually a good place to be. The one looking is always the nothing space. The mind will never make sense of this though it keeps trying. The mind can not enter the mystery so it just goes quiet and settling into the nothing space happens.

Thank you!!

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Re: Joy of Experiencing

Postby Primrose9 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:16 am

Ha Ha!! The post posted 4 times because I pressed submit and it wasn't going through for quite a while so I pressed it a few times more. Wow!! That's quite a finale to the final questions!! :)

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Re: Joy of Experiencing

Postby warissem » Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:27 am

Good morning

It is a pleasure to read your posts. I submit your answers to other guides, they would ask further questions. Thereafter you will be invited in facebook LU groups where you can discuss about all the arisings.

Best for you.

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Re: Joy of Experiencing

Postby Primrose9 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:29 am

Dear Warissem,

I'm beyond grateful to you for your guidance in this seeing. It is the very fulfilling beginning of a beautiful unknown mystery.
I did not get any further questions and I was invited to the facebook LU groups.

Sending all the best to you if life!

With much love,
Rosie


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