Pre-Awakening

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:17 pm

Please inquire further on the question, and let's see what comes up.
As I inquire into the sound of my hand, it sounds innocent, unknowing, and spontaneous like a child.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:46 pm

Please inquire further on the question, and let's see what comes
There is the sense of frustration at trying to find words to post on the forum. There is a struggle to have anything to add to experience.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Bananafish » Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:14 am

Ok, please feel that sense of frustration. Which part in the body, if any, do you feel it?

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:57 am

Ok, please feel that sense of frustration. Which part in the body, if any, do you feel it?
As I was feeling into frustration, I welcomed the sensation to stay for as long as it wanted to. There was then a sense that the frustration was perfect in and of itself. The same could be said about everything that the mind labels as bad. Anger, shame, fear, depression, etc. are all perfect. There’s nothing wrong with anything and even the sense of something being wrong is perfect.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Bananafish » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:40 am

There’s nothing wrong with anything and even the sense of something being wrong is perfect.

Is this understanding intellectual?

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:15 pm

There’s nothing wrong with anything and even the sense of something being wrong is perfect.

Is this understanding intellectual?
Yes it is. Both “perfect” and “something wrong” are intellectual.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Bananafish » Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:18 pm

Thanks. :) Let's try again.

Do you still feel the frustration?
Please feel that sense of frustration. Which part in the body, if any, do you feel it?

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:56 pm

Thanks. :) Let's try again.

Do you still feel the frustration?
Please feel that sense of frustration. Which part in the body, if any, do you feel it?
Hey Kento!

This week I have been trying to find what it is that is aware of changing awareness. I don’t know what is behind awareness that is aware of when awareness changes.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Bananafish » Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:33 pm

Hi Seth. :)

Great! Now, if you were asked to answer what it is anyway, how would you answer?

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:21 am

Hi Seth. :)

Great! Now, if you were asked to answer what it is anyway, how would you answer?
I would say that it is awareness.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Bananafish » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:35 am

Please inquire further.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:07 pm

Please inquire further.
Hey Kento!

I am giving attention to the sounds of the room and notice that there is a subtle ringing in my ears. I give that ringing attention and then there is the noticing of tingling in my hands. Then thoughts appear, then there are feet on the floor, and back to the ringing again. I don’t find anywhere or anything that these sensations are attached to.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Bananafish » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:48 pm

Hi Seth. :)

What is it that is noticing all those?

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Statum » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:15 pm

Hi Seth. :)

What is it that is noticing all those?
I can’t say, but if I had to say it would just be that noticing is noticing what is noticed.

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Re: Pre-Awakening

Postby Bananafish » Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:02 pm

Please describe the relation between noticing and the noticed.
Please note that you describe it from your direct perception of what is here and now.


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