Pre-Awakening

[Bananafish]

Please inquire further.

[Statum]

Please inquire further.

I have noticed that language is the way that time and thought is expressed. The words used are tied to emotions and desires. Also, since the language is shared with other people, my thoughts are their thoughts. Someone can say table and everyone in the room has the same thought. Language is how thoughts are controlled.

I say all that to say this, what I wanted in inquiry was understanding. Understanding of reality, God, the self, etc. But to understand is through language. Language uses sound to create thought. Thought, language, understanding, and control are all conspiring to form the illusion of life as I know it. Life outside of language is entirely unknown.

[Bananafish]

Yes, that perfectly makes sense, but I'd rather you not make sense but inquire into the moving "hand."

[Statum]

Yes, that perfectly makes sense, but I'd rather you not make sense but inquire into the moving "hand."

You’re right, thank you for bringing me back to direct experience. As I look at the moving hand, it moves its own movements. It can stop or start at anytime. My mind gets lost in thought, but the hand still moves.

[Bananafish]

My mind gets lost in thought, but the hand still moves.

What is it that's moving the hands?

[Statum]

What is it that's moving the hands?

I don’t find anything attached to the hand that moves it.

[Bananafish]

My question wasn't "what is attached to the hand that moves it?"
It was "What is it that's moving the hands?"

Please inquire again.

[Statum]

My question wasn't "what is attached to the hand that moves it?"
It was "What is it that's moving the hands?"

Please inquire again.

Nothing is moving them. They are just moving

[Bananafish]

Nothing is moving them. They are just moving

That's one of the ideas. Please inquire further.

[Statum]

That's one of the ideas. Please inquire further.

Without knowing what else to say, I would just say that moving is happening.

[Bananafish]

Is it "moving" that's happening?

[Statum]

Is it "moving" that's happening?

It’s happening that is happening. Movement and happening mean the same thing.

[Bananafish]

Is it happening?

[Statum]

Is it happening?

I don’t know how to respond to that question other than to say yes.

[Bananafish]

Please inquire further on the question, and let's see what comes up.