Hand on the gate

[Lubo]

thank you... Big shift here.. Beautiful day...

Wow, tell me more?

I would love to join your meeting... .. Only free for first hour though.. Is that ok? X

Yes. I sent you an email with the link.

Much love
Lubi

[LoveEd]

Hi Lubo

It was nice to see you both yesterday.

I saw all thoughts as illusory... All meaningless, nothing at all is going on... Just what ifs, planning, adjusting to themselves by seeming to have to do things. There is no guilt here and no sense of shame.

There are still thoughts here, they are like soft thoughts, very trivial with no charge. When i observe these, there is still some sense of identity, they pertain to a me it seems. I go to them, look around them, see who they are talking to, and of cpurse thete is noone there. Theres no evidence of "me" at all. I have today to keep with this observation. I feel peaceful.

X

[Lubo]

Holla :)

Theres no evidence of "me" at all

No 'me' means
there is nobody was born = no body was born
How this sounds? :)

Love
Lubo

[LoveEd]

Hi Lubo

I"m back and would love to carry on. Do you have time?

Thank you

Charmain

[Lubo]

Oo, hi dear Charmain,
Yes I am here for you. I am so happy to see your reply.

Where you want to start from?

What this thoughts-narrative explain is not OK?

Much love
Lubo

[LoveEd]

Hey Lubo

Thank you!

Much has changed in the circumstances - practically everything! There has been undoing around roles, friendship groups, expectations, sense of responsibility for others is much less, theres no more planning, and a deep faith and surrender in what is. Theres no effort with that now (although was at the beginning as I was letting go of everything, or everything was letting go of me). Im no longer with my partner or living in my home of 20 years and life is very different. There is more peace and a lightness. I just go with what is happening.
Still background murmurs from thought - but with vigilance to any feelings of guilt and beliefs. I notice where Im projecting thoughts rather than blaming things.

Do you mean my question - do you have time? and that this wasn't OK?
Yes good question - there was a sense to be polite, not assume anything in your circumstances, a trace of guilt if I was imposing and fear of a judgement from you! if i was. wow - I can see how beliefs and thoughts were guiding here and still sense of responsibility and need to manage! :-)

with love x

[Lubo]

Hi dear Charmain,
Yes I have time for you.
it is pleasure to walk with you in this journey.
What you want to put on light, what is not OK, what is burning desire?
Share what is the topic in front of you?

I can point these:

I just go with what is happening.

Still background murmurs from thought - but with vigilance to any feelings of guilt and beliefs.

Notice the dream game. There is environment called What is happening and where the opera is playing. Opera about small, separate me, a me person and mind who helps and torcher the small helpless me. And these characters - mind and a me they are not imagined but separate from the whole from what is, can see the dream drama?

Say "There is no me and no mind, just spectacular and sweet childish story"
and "I am ready to stop pretending that this story doesn't like me. I am addicted to this imagined person and mind, there are a lot of drama, so juice, so much energy."

What is coming?

much love
lubo

[Lubo]

I want to correct:

I am ready to stop pretending that this story doesn't like me = I am ready to stop pretending that I don't like this story.

[LoveEd]

Hi Lubo
Thank you.

Yes slight sense of story not liking me. Lot less than previously, no / little sense of me doing it, but still some things happening.
There is a slight identification with the drama, but there is no fear. There is no seeking of it, some scenarios arrive, but with a detachment. Theres acceptance. Sometimes action is taken, or just seeing what hapoens.

Xx

[LoveEd]

Got it
I am ready to stop pretending i dont like this story!

[LoveEd]

Hi Lubo

I know its a dream gane, i dont really participate, in it in a way where it "means" anything. Theres no outcome, just whats happening. No goal, no ambition, and no care for any of that. So there is nothing playing out. When i look at the dream drama, from where i sit, its not here, there are some pictures that flash up, peoples faces, characters in the play. They are not "here", they are not doing anything.

There is no desire to be a me, something though still tethered to it in a form of "i dont like / it doesnt like me", yes still sensation there. Im ready to stop pretending this, theres a sense of freedom with this and a bit of "yeah but", its too simple!! When i be with that, i know its simple. Then that feels like a sense of detachment to the story rather than a seeing that it is a spectacular sweet childish story!

X

[Lubo]

Yes.
OK. There is no inherent self is just a pointer to see what is here.
Notice is there such thing as mind?
Where the thoughts are coming from?

[LoveEd]

Hi Lubo

How do i see this? I have thoughts here that this is where I get stuck!
I KNOW there is no inherent self, and thoughts are not coming from a 'me', but I guess im still relating to them in some way as if they were. I don't know what to do here.

Thank you

xx

[Lubo]

Mm, ok. let's look in this way.
There is a story about separation.
And the story that there is a mind which has own power
power to produce thoughts
and thoughts are trying to understand and influence reality.
And here we are :) This Divinity here and independent mind with its thoughts, right?
But non-duality, no2
so what is your experience there is this divinity here wich appear as everything or there is a mind ?
Why should be something independent called mind? but not just thoughts, commenting how divinity appear?
How exactly thoughts can influence Divinity when Divinity produce this thoughts?
Notice that everything is absolutely effortlessly?
Is there someone which makes effort in order to think or to exist?
Invitation is to notice that thoughts are empty, there is no power in them, just black letters on a white sheet of paper ;)

What is coming?

Love
l.

[LoveEd]

2023 3:43 pm

Mm, ok. let's look in this way.
There is a story about separation.

Yes its a story though , not true (what does true even mean?)

And the story that there is a mind which has own power

power to produce thoughts

There no no mind "of mine" or at all with power for producing thoughts - there is a "simulated experience" of having thoughts, and in the story coming from me-mind... But its not


and thoughts are trying to understand and influence reality.
Yes but cant, no me, no story to influence


And here we are :) This Divinity here and independent mind with its thoughts, right?
There is only divinity

But non-duality, no2


so what is your experience there is this divinity here wich appear as everything or there is a mind ?
There is only divinity

Why should be something independent called mind? but not just thoughts, commenting how divinity appear?

Yes, why? There cant be a separate independent thing,

How exactly thoughts can influence Divinity when Divinity produce this thoughts?

Thoughts are not influencing anything

Notice that everything is absolutely effortlessly?
Absolutely
Is there someone which makes effort in order to think or to exist?
No, theres no sepatate someone,

Invitation is to notice that thoughts are empty, there is no power in them, just black letters on a white sheet of paper ;)

Yes thoughts cant "do" anything, cant influence what already is... Thoughts are the imrression "in an expetience" simulating "somebody doing this"