Friede ist...immer hier / Peace is...always here

[Anastacia42]

Okay, let's look at DE only.

content "me-character?"
it has a sense of reality this "me-character"...it looks like true.

Describe this "sense of reality" in Direct Experience terms. What, exactly, is seen, heard, felt, tasted, smelled?


Loving,

[Soalheira]

Describe this "sense of reality" in Direct Experience terms. What, exactly, is seen, heard, felt, tasted, smelled?

it is nothing seen
nothing heard
nothing felt
nothing tasted
nothing smelled

[Anastacia42]

Then it doesn't exist, does it?

It is merely a thought. Can you SEE this?

Loving,

[Soalheira]

Then it doesn't exist, does it?

no, it doesn´t exist.

It is merely a thought. Can you SEE this?

Yes, I see, that it is a thought.

[Anastacia42]

How does it FEEL to see this?

[Soalheira]

How does it FEEL to see this?

It feels like a blokage in the body. It is a feeling of a very tide and compact body. Heavy and fixed. It is painful not peaceful.

[Anastacia42]

Okay, whatever you're looking at or thinking about is a lie if it's "a blockage. "

Remember:

Lies are usually felt in the heart or solar plexus as a contraction that we may label as tight, heavy or tense.

In contrast, truth is usually expansive. We may call it loose, light or relaxed.


You are misinterpreting. This is not...

a sense of reality this "me-character"...it looks like true.

It is a lie.

Compare this sensation to how other known lies feel. Let me know what is found.


Loving,

[Soalheira]

Compare this sensation to how other known lies feel. Let me know what is found.

yes, the "me" is a lie.

I wonna answer with some sentences of belief found out with "the work" of Byron Katie. They have more or less the same feeling like it was already described above:

I need it, that a man loves me
I am responsable for a better world
I am not allowed to make mistakes
I need it, like I want
I am a sexual being
I must not be rejected
i must not worry
I must not be dominant
nobody is allowed to scold me
I am obliged to take care of my family
I must stand by my word
I must take care of my body
My daughters must be happy
who does not spend time with me, does not love me
I am hurt
I have to live up to my expectations
I need to be understood and understand others
my children must not die before me
I have to eat healthy
I can help other people
I can help myself
I must be polite
I must not disturb people
People must not disturb me
I have to do a lot for others so that they love me
To have a good life, I have to learn and understand a lot

[Anastacia42]

Yes, I have done The Work of BK for. . . gosh, 25 years.

Those statements can be explored once you are finished here with seeing there is no self.

yes, the "me" is a lie

Let's look at another aspect of all of this:


Palm Flipping Exercise

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.

2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.

Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts – examine your direct experience.

Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:

How is the movement controlled?

Does a thought control it?

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

Who or what ​ chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

Loving,

[Soalheira]

How is the movement controlled?

I don´t know HOW the movement is controlled

Does a thought control it?

no

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

no

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?

I don´t know HOW the decision is made..

Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

Who or what ​ chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

it happend automatically, it was the left hand..

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

no, I cannot find a separate individual

[Anastacia42]

Excellent! How does it feel to see this?

Loving,

[Soalheira]

Excellent! How does it feel to see this?

A feeling of being surprised, of amazement. Then the fear from the mind: how will I ever understand with my heart, that there is no "I". It is such a "deep" programming, the automatism of "I" do, have, want, will, do not, hope, can, feel, etc.
How is it possible to ever unlearn it??

[Anastacia42]

Fear will prevent seeing. I can share a video & an exercise for that.

How is it possible to ever unlearn it??

You don't unlearn it. You simply learn to LOOK at Direct Experience & see the truth, instead of the mind's made up stories.

Look only at Direct Experience.

Direct or Actual Experience is

Seeing
Hearing
Feeling (Sensation, not emotion. Emotion is Sensation plus made-up thoughts & labels)
Tasting
Smelling
Thoughts Arising (but not their content)

For the fear:

https://youtu.be/jKX1llYtlKE


Here is an anxiety exercise that focuses a person in the present, and in a part of the brain that cannot do anxiety. Basically, go through each sense and say (or think) "I see/ hear/ feel/ taste/ touch ______________." A minute or two of each and usually anxiety is gone.

I see the couch.
I see the keyboard.
I see the glass. Etc.

I hear the train.
I hear the keys clacking.
I hear my breath. Etc.

I feel the couch under my butt.
I feel my fingers on the keys.
I feel the cold air. Etc.

I taste a metallic taste in my mouth.
I taste the coffee.
I taste the food. Etc.

I smell the humidity in the air.
I smell my husband's shampoo.
I smell the soap. Etc.

As far as I can tell, the only time this doesn't work is when someone won't do it.

Loving,

[Soalheira]

thank you Stacy for the exercise of direct experience. Yes, it helps to come out of stories into presence. Here is no fear.

[Anastacia42]

Excellent! The surprise & amazement remain, right?

Can you find any separate "self" anywhere?

Loving,