I'm done with suffering and the human experience

[Matt]

probably annoying for the guide

Not at all! I got a lot of pleasure from your clarity in this post; very happy for you....

• What comes up now, when it is suggested that the illusion of self has been seen-through?


'Popping beliefs' will continue, fake-self apparitions will continue; there will still be conditioning and reactivity arising but you have seen through it.

You may forget for a while and feel disturbingly "asleep", but then as soon as you look to see if there is a self at the center of that disturbing experience, you will find no self there (as you just said, "DE is truth and shows no real self," and "a fake self is a fiction, an imagination."

Once a child of a certain age sees his parent take a mask away from their face, he knows that it is his parent who is behind the mask. He can still get disconcerted from the illusion, but he may also laugh, because deep down he gets that it's an illusion. And he will reach over and pull the mask away and reconfirm the truth. In this sense, the illusion of self cannot be 'un-seen', and it can be reconfirmed whenever you get disconcerted.

• Deep down you know there's nothing behind the self 'mask', and you have the skill to reconfirm this at any time. Can you accept this fact? Do you dare? ;-)


Love,
M

[2plus2is5]

• What comes up now, when it is suggested that the illusion of self has been seen-through?

different things at different times. sometimes annoyance / anger (sensations in the jaw) and dismissal in this moment. but then it passes

• Deep down you know there's nothing behind the self 'mask', and you have the skill to reconfirm this at any time. Can you accept this fact? Do you dare? ;-)

you are right i do have the skill to confirm this any time . Can I accept it? Do I dare? - i can work on that!

[Matt]

Beautiful, take your time — I'm not pushing you, just encouraging you to explore it.
It seems you have already expressed in your recent answers that you have seen what needs to be seen, but only you can accept it and verify it.
Best wishes,
M

[Matt]

Regarding your post on FB:
When I suggested that you have SEEN, although you did not yet feel a shift or an acceptance, I was trying to stimulate an acceptance and a shift. I'm sorry that method rubbed you wrong; it was not the right method for you, and the other guides at LU gave me constructive criticism about it.

But since you seemingly complained on social media behind my back instead of talking to me honestly about your judgment or emotion, I feel you've broken our contract of honesty and sincerity — and ultimately your promise to question your beliefs. A completely sincere and honest guide-client relationship is essential for many reasons, as well as a willingness to suspend judgment and communicate openly and honestly. For me, that is not

So I'm confirming your assertion that you have not gone through the "Gate" — because, once again, that can only happen voluntarily and with your own acceptance and validation, not the guide's.

And I'm ending the conversation here.

Feel free to ask for guidance again from someone else; I wish you all the best.

[2plus2is5]

I wasn't complaining. It was a genuine question out of curiosity.

Even if it rubbed me the wrong way, I know thats part of the process and so I don't have hard feelings ..

But considering I have broken the rules . I apologise and I am sorry . I should have thought before I spoke.
The action was disrespectful. I am sorry. I should have directed my honesty here . I was confused.

I just feel that I've had 40 years of human, . I find the rush all a bit traumatic . The process in general....traumatic. and i know that can be normal.

I broke the rules and was disrespectful. I'm sorry. Thank you for your help and all the best

[Matt]

Thank you, I understand and accept your response.

Willingness to question your deepest beliefs is certainly one of the most difficult activity there is, so confusion will come with the territory.

I am not upset, and my mind is open; if you really want to continue with this thread, it's fine. You might have an easier time with someone else, I don't know. I might be prone to rushing because of the narrative here of having a family to feed and not much time as a volunteer on a long dialogue with someone clinging to their beliefs.

Whatever you decide, just keep in mind that the guide can only point; only you can see, and only you can admit that you've seen.

Best wishes

[2plus2is5]

yes thank you.

I understand!

I think what I will do is I will have a break from this.

I try to look inwards and stay with the questions you have asked me throughout our thread.

Thanks so much for all your help!

All the best and take care

[Matt]

OK, no problem. You're always welcome back.
Thanks for all the good work and the honor of witnessing it.