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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Lubo » Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:30 am

Its like yesterday have never happened, but then again it did happen. Does it make sense?
Yes, thoughts help us to travel trough time and space, but this is illusion.
Mind story. which sense is time and which one is space?
There is only the shared experience of the now together with others
OK. Notice this I am, is it a Rasmus character?
Does the character Rasmus - be? Santa - to be?
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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Headlesspov » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:21 am

Hi Lubo,

sorry for my late reply to you.
Mind story. which sense is time and which one is space?
Time is also included in the mind story. Time about past and future is in the thoughts habits.
The space locations are also stories, there is only what is in the now, which is experience directly in the now.
OK. Notice this I am, is it a Rasmus character?
Does the character Rasmus - be? Santa - to be?
The ''I am'' can take different forms, but this is fictional. There is no Rasmus. There is no Santa. These are made up storytelling. Its easy to get lost in these different forms. However with practice it gets better and better.

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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Lubo » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:29 am

Hi Rasmus,
notice, this whole manifestation.
Do you see that it is freedom itself?
Is there an identification that there is a self?

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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Headlesspov » Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:38 am

Hi Lubo,
Do you see that it is freedom itself?
I see this freedom that follow this realisation. Its quite amazing, and also hard to put in words.
There is a totally of aliveness in this empty space.
Is there an identification that there is a self?
I have seen it, and there is no identification with a self most of the time. Sometimes I am identified with thought, but then I look and try to see the empty nature. I guess with practice, it will be a better ground of realisation.

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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Lubo » Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:13 pm

Hi dear Rasmus,
I see this freedom that follow this realisation. Its quite amazing, and also hard to put in words.
There is a totally of aliveness in this empty space
look this. There is freedom from the realisation

Under this there is empty space, but
what is in the middle?
Look around, what is this?
Is there a self in between?
Is there freedom in between?

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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Headlesspov » Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:41 am

Hi Lubo,
Under this there is empty space, but
what is in the middle?
There is nothing in between. I am not sure, if I am understanding you question here correctly, or if I am off track?
Look around, what is this?
Its everything, and nothing. Its appearances and manifestations, that appear by themselves. Its experience itself, that manifest in various forms.
Is there a self in between?
No Self in between. I don't see anything solid in experience. Only experience is here.
Is there freedom in between?
In between what is appearing you mean? There is just freedom and love.


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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Lubo » Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:10 pm

Wow , wonderful Rasmus
I am ok to send you the final questions wich will help other guides to check if I missed something in our exploration.
Are you ok to send them or you prefer to investigate something more?

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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Headlesspov » Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:52 am

Hi Lubo,

No further investigation is needed. I am ready for final questions.
Its been really helpful to be with the direct experience, instead of trying think about, and make sense of it in the mind. This has truly been helpful. Thank you

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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Lubo » Fri Oct 14, 2022 1:15 pm

Hi Rasmus,

great!
Here are the questions. Take as long time as it is needed. Report what is being seen in this very moment when you reply each question. Do not reply from memory or a previous experience.
Have fun :-)

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience.

3) How does it feel to see this?

What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?

5a. Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work?
Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work.
5b. What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.

6) Anything to add?


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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Headlesspov » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:07 pm

Hi Lubo,

Please find below responses.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?
There is no separate entity, self, me or I at all. There is no shape or form. There has never been any ''I'' at the centre of it all.
Its a fictive as Santa.
2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience.
The illusion is that we having a internal dialog with this fictive internal self, by doing a lot of thinking and taking ownership of things. THINKING that its my experience, my feeling, my thought, my sound. This appears as thoughts loops creating a fictive story, in which the '' I '' is the main character of the movie. The fictive ''I '' trying to control the experience, and only want positive feelings.
When this is recognised, there is only thoughts, sounds, smell and seeing. There is no '' I'' that experience this, you are the experience itself, that experience itself. There is only what is in the current moment, no past, no future.

3) How does it feel to see this?
Its freedom and aliveness. There is energy which takes forms in each moment as something new. Its a pure aliveness and all accepting love. Its hard to actual label this.

What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
The difference is that making the clear distinction between looking directly, and not trying to think it through.
Its not understood by more thinking, but need to be experienced.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
It was the overall guidance, that made me look directly. It was with doing the experience to sit with what is, and look directly, that there is no control at all.
5a. Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work?
Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work.
There is no intention, free will, choice or control. There are patterns of energy that make things happen, all things are connected with each others. For example, thoughts are not controlled, they appear out of nothing. I cannot control the next thought. When the thought just appear, then instead of being identified with the thought, then just rest and the thought will pass away like anything else.
To give an example from own experience, if anger appears in giving situation, instead of being identified, as this is my anger. Just be with it, then it will also pass away.
There is no author, or anyone to make things happen. There patterns and conditions which cause things to appear from nothing, and then pass away into nothing. Everything that is experienced good and bad, its passing away in the moment it appear. In that way, nothing is really real in that sense that there is no solid experiences you can hold on to or grab.
As a result of this there is no choice, free will, intention or control.
5b. What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.
There is no one to be responsible for thoughts, and the aliveness of things. You cannot decide not to be aware, or not to think. Because there is no one make decisions.
When ''I am'' is not caught up in thinking, there is a acceptance and love for what is. Then there is no need for disliking or harming.
6) Anything to add?
A lot of love

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Re: Non duality_ no seeker

Postby Lubo » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:01 am

Thank you dear Rasmus,
What a joy to read your reply.

I'll right you back soon

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