Hi :)

[Nef]

Hi, I came here from another site (not international), where I took "one to one" and realized I know, there's no "me".
I had this experience already some years before, but thought, there was something wrong with me. I didn't realize, that was universal, I thought only "my me" was so strange :)...

So, briefly, I understand, that thoughts just spontaneously appear, that life is a sequence of events, where on the base of previous experience the next is created. I know, we all function the same way, on the same principals...

I was looking for the truth for a long time ad slowly were doing little steps towards. I knew about this fact for some time, but couldn't see it. When my "one to one" partner gave me some questions pointing the way I should look, it got soon clear.

Ask me, what you want to know.

[Richard B.]

nef, the answers to these question willl clarify where "you" are:

1. Is there a you, at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
2. Explain in detail what the self is and how it works.
3. How does it feel to be liberated?
4. How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about no separate entity ‘me’?

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[Nef]

1. Is there a you, at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?

No, there is only an ilusion of "me" or "you".

2. Explain in detail what the self is and how it works.
The self is just an ilusion. Ilusion of a separate entity. There is a body that functiones without conciuos control, but concious realizes this body, his pain, etc. And it got into this ilusion of "me" and stays there until it realizes there' s no separation from others and everything else. There are thouhts, feelings attached to the body, to history of this little part of universal mind. I can ´t see the whole history and the way, how it developed. But I know, it developed to the way it feels about " itself" now. Many concepts about "who I am", what I like/ dislike. That defines the way "I" behave... "Me" changes according to new experience, it' s never the same in different moments.


3. How does it feel to be liberated?
First feelings when I realized I see the ilusion were. Wow, I really cannot worry qbout the past, future, othhers hurtin me, etc. And is that really true, I am connected with everything? There really is an end of suffering. But I still feel strongly attached to the habit of subjective perception. I only know I don ´t have to.

4. How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about no separate entity ‘me’?
Just think...our emotions are the same, we all have the same desire to be happy, we are mostly happy when feeling connected (in love, deep friendship, sharing the same ideas). Is it more you when you feel alone and separated or when connected? What is you then? Have you got experience with being in harmony with some music, nature...? Who is the one in harmony? Your ears? Your brain connections? Your emotions? And where did they come from? Is it possible, you, me, nature...have something in common?
Try and think why really you do things you do? How much control do you really have?


It´s difficult, one has to be opened to it and I would need to get some reactiones from the person...

[Nef]

If you think, this topic should be moved to "one to one", please, let's do so :) Thanks.

[Nef]

I will add some more info about myself...
I know, nearly none of you will understand this language (Czech), but this is a link to my original "one to one":
http://www.poradnazdarma.cz/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=210

My story...I have been trying to find the truth about myself since childhood, but I didn't know, what I was looking for. Later on I got to some teachings about none-duality. It took a long time to understand my first step, that there is an "i" and "I". But I couldn't imagine how could it be possible that all would be the same "I". I knew I should be asking myself "who am I", but I didn't know, how to do it...
When I got to that site, where I could take "one to one" duel, I was quite frightened to start. I took me some time to ask for leading a was really a bit nervous about it. I wasn't sure, I would be smart enough, I was also frightened, that I would find out, that I don't have enough honest effort... I was thinking, now I'm deciding, whether to try and get through the "gate"...what will happen?
My expectations were (like I can often read with others) to get to a state where I won't have negative emotions, will be able to give up speculations about the future and sentimental thoughts about the past. I expected to be able to take control over my feelings and actions...
Thanks to well pointed questions I was able to find out that thoughts appear just spontaneously as well as emotions, that there is no way to control them and that I am a bunch of opinions about myself, that developed over years... That I don't know, what thought will come next, I cannot stop them... I only pay attention to something and thoughts appear.
I couldn't stop asking who is the one who is conscious, who and why makes the illusion of a separate entity. But finally I realized that the reason is just "not knowing" that the separate entity doesn't exist. It was actually very simple, but hard to get to.
I realized the real quality of "now". When a I consciously dip into the present moment I realize there is a great space, but I cannot describe it in words.
I had this "wow" moment (as I described before), but later I was thinking "is that really that?", because I still feel the same feelings etc. But on the other hand there is a slight difference in the fact that I see the illusion. When on doubts, Richard B. asked me what expectations I had from the state of awakening. I realized then, I have no more expectations but having the certainty. I am sure, something has changed, just would like to deepen it...