Come back home

All threads where seeing happens are stored here. The complete list, sorted by guide, contains all links. The archives include threads of those that came to LU already seeing as well.
You are welcome to continue your conversation with your guide here after your name is turned blue.
User avatar
Polet
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Polet » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:45 pm

what does it comprise of?
"I" does not exist, emptiness instead of "I"

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:01 pm

"I" does not exist, emptiness instead of "I"
How do you know this?

User avatar
Polet
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Polet » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:30 pm

I know this from the absence of thoughts, emptiness inside the head, silence inside the body.
I know this from the absence of thoughts, emptiness inside the head, silence inside the body.

Thank you,
Polet

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:28 pm

What was the point where you saw?

What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

User avatar
Polet
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Polet » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:02 pm

It was a dream that I described before, where I swam in a blue abyss and realized that this was a dream, that I was dreaming, that I could rule it and stay in it. After I woke up, I felt in my chest a state of "heartfelt attention", gratitud, unity with space .
It was a very strong and deep impression.

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:13 pm

Thank you for your patience Polet
I just want you to be sure that you have seen through the illusion of a separate self.

Are there any doubts remaining?

User avatar
Polet
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Polet » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:42 pm

Hi, Sid!

Thank you for your care and attention.

It is now clear that the I-illusion no longer haunts me. Everything exists by itself - thoughts, actions, sensations, events - regardless of thoughts, intentions, and everything happens through acceptance and turns simply into knowledge ...

Polet

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:00 pm

How wonderful Polet!

I've asked some other guides to have a look at our conversation to see what they think. This is a usual step at this point.

It may take a little while but I'll post as soon as I get some feedback.

Blessings
Sid

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:56 pm

Hi Polet

Please answer these questions

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience. Also, through your inquiry, what is different now?

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Can you talk about decision, intention, free will, choice and control? What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

User avatar
Polet
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Polet » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:02 pm

Hi Sid,
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
There is no any I and never been. All that happens is identification, illusion, like in a movie, in which we experience together with the characters.
2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience. Also, through your inquiry, what is different now?
I-illusion arises due to the existence of thoughts, memory, experience.
Now everything exists as knowledge, information, sensation. Within all this there is no self, no controller, no selector, no expectant.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
Seeing is like looking from zero gravity, from emptiness and, at the same time, experiencing gratitude and peace while being inside events. I count thoughts, watch the body in motion - it's funny.
Anxiety is gone, expectations and assumptions are gone.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
it was a dream that I was aware of, I realized that I was dreaming. When I woke up, I continued to experience the same sensations that came in a dream - it was bliss, heartfelt attention, a state of dissolution.
5) Can you talk about decision, intention, free will, choice and control? What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
None of this exists. There are thoughts and sensations. There is no one who controls and forces - there is no one to find fault with. There are thoughts that "think" that they are deciding something.

Thank you for the questions.
Polet

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:17 am

Hi Polet
It sounds like you've have had some clarity. Just a couple of small points.
“There are thoughts that "think" that they are deciding something.”
Can a thought think? Can a thought think that it thinks? What is that thinks?

Can you please describe an example from your experience about how control and your freewill have changed.

User avatar
Polet
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Polet » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:19 pm

Can a thought think? Can a thought think that it thinks? What is that thinks?
This is a metaphor. Because thoughts exist and thoughts make labels.
Can you please describe an example from your experience about how control and your freewill have changed.
Control and freewill do not exist. Nothing can happen otherwise than it is.

Thankfully,
Polet

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:00 pm

Hi Polet
This is a metaphor. Because thoughts exist and thoughts make labels.
Interesting
Have a look around the room and observe how thoughts make labels. Please describe the process from your actual experience.

Blessings
Sid

User avatar
Polet
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Polet » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:24 pm

Hi, Sid!

Thank you for your question.

Thoughts come and go. Thoughts follow one another and interpret and describe the sensations and experiences that occur between thoughts. It's like a "movie with subtitles" ...

Polet

User avatar
Sidstrate
Posts: 165
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:58 pm

Re: Come back home

Postby Sidstrate » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:54 am

Hi Polet
Sorry about the delay

I've shared our conversation with other guides

I'll post the feedback when ready

Blessings
Sid


Return to “ARCHIVES”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 29 guests