MindLikeSky

[Vivien]

Hi Peri,

A quiet smile. Peaceful. Intimate. It feels like a beginning in the best way, no fear or trepidation, full of curiosity and wonder.

Beautiful :)

At this stage, we usually ask some checking questions to see if everything is clear.

Please answer the following questions with some detail please, and answer what's true for you rather than any sort of 'ideal' answer. Also please provide examples where asked.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience. Also, through your inquiry, what is different now?

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work?
Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work.

b) What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works.

6) Anything to add?

Vivien

[0peri]

Hi Vivien,

These answers are coming in installments. Here are the first few.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

There is not now, nor has there ever been any sort of entity, no me, self or I.

2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience. Also, through your inquiry, what is different now?

Self-referencing confusion of thoughts, identifications, affiliations and memories that must perpetually reassert themselves in a constant struggle to be somebody when there is no body to be. Plus an ongoing effort to push away what is not wanted and get what is wanted as if the cards were not already shuffled. Oh, and also trying not to die though never having been born.

3) How does it feel to see this?

Ahhhhhhhhhhh.

What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

It’s easier to show up to the best of my ability and simply accept whatever the result. Negative self-talk sounds absurd. When something is difficult, it’s because there’s too much me in it, as the ‘I’ softens, it just gets done. My access to one of the garden plots I lovingly tend was revoked today and nothing was taken from anybody. Nobody meditates at the beginning and end of the day, there’s just resting and listening. When driving, it feels like the world is moving towards me, through me.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?

There was an ‘I’ hiding out as awareness. It was the combination of seeing that experience is aware and dropping any sense of having an inside.

More to follow in the next days. Peri

[Vivien]

Hi Peri,

How are you with the remaining questions?

Have a nice day,
Vivien

[0peri]

Hi Vivien,

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work?
Give examples from your own recent experiences to how things happen and how things work?

Sorry for the delay, Vivien.
Everything is simply happening. The hand reaches out to select the cayenne kombucha, the head turns to see where the sound is coming from, the body walks to the bookshelf and selects a book. A story is told after the fact making sense of the choice. The body sits to meditate but the hand sets the timer for an hour instead of the usual 30 minutes. What intended to sit longer? Nothing is found. Thoughts arise but if there is no one to believe them, there is no reaction. Nothing has been controlled. There is no free will.

b) What are you responsible for? Give examples from your own recent experiences to how this works. ?

Experience Is. There is no one who is responsible.

6) Anything to add? ?

Heaps of gratitude for your guidance, presence, prodding and persistence. Your skillful responses were just what was needed. May I reach out to you via your website in the future?

Peri

[Vivien]

Hi Peri,

Thank you for your responses. I am going to ask other guides to have a look at the thread to ensure that I have covered everything and that my pointing has been clear. This may take a few days. Other guides might have further questions, and if they do, I will bring them to you.

May I reach out to you via your website in the future?

Yes, of course, you can contact me at any time.

Vivien

[Vivien]

Hi Peri,

Other guides have no further questions for you. It has been a pleasure to explore the concept of the separate self with you. Thank you for being open and willing to look.

Keep an eye out for an email notification notifying you of a PM (private message) from the forum inviting you to join our aftercare groups on Facebook. If you don't receive an email notification, you can access your PM's from the forum once you have logged in. The PM also details other resources available to you.

Your username will change from green to blue which indicates that you have had the realisation of there being no separate self. This thread will be moved to the ‘Archive’ section of the forum, but you will be able to access it.
You can contact me at any time if you have any questions via private message here on the forum, or via Facebook if you decide to join our groups there.

Please don’t forget that this is just a beginning. It’s the beginning of cleaning up of conditionings, which needs further looking to help them to dissolve. All sorts of old beliefs, emotions and feeling can come up to see them and feel them. Please don’t stop looking if you want things to deepen.

If something comes up and you don’t know how to deal with it, please feel free to contact me, so we can have a look. I do further looking private sessions (video calls) and emotional inquiry. If you are interested, you can read more about that on my website (you can find the link in my signature).

Vivien