I've just found this website and think it is a marvellous idea.
You see, I've been 'guiding' for a few years now and have always preferred the actual real meeting between two people to share this.
I have a great passion for communicating our obvious nature and in the last couple of years have talked to people all over the world on video cam etc.
Now this website has appeared, it is a great way for clarity to be remembered as something which never left, and yet another way for the singularity/oneness/no~thing {insert fav. word} to rejoice in the celebration of both appearing to lose, and then find itself over and over again, within it's many appearances as what is, as it simply and effortlessly unfolds.
As far as the memory serves here, I was always questioning and fascinated with the 'pretending' to go along with what I was told was myself, and the implied split between what I was told I was not {the outside world}.
Simply knowing that now or what's happening presently is simply happening, is not much to talk about when your a kid, as you just got on with playing and pretending, but deep down everyone knows this. It wasn't very well articulated then because why would we attempt to philosophize actually building a tree house or swimming in a river when it was already what's happening?
It seems we've covered something over in order to find it again, and I love sharing in the dawning that appears to be multiplying itself throughout the world.
All the best.
Let Life Be Your Guide
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Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
In fact, whilst growing up, there were many times I would stop my friends and draw attention to there being some obvious significance to it actually being now.Simply knowing that now or what's happening presently is simply happening, is not much to talk about when your a kid, as you just got on with playing and pretending, but deep down everyone knows this.
Because of it's obviousness, it's hidden, it seems, behind a veil of insignificance.
I think one of the most overwhelming things about this actuality is it's utter simplicity.
I must admit that; most of the people I share this with end up having a good laugh at themselves when they recognize themselves as both everything and no~thing.
Ease of living seems to come from remembering what we forgot in every now...and now...and now...and now...
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Aha...ha ha ha ha ha
One of the most rewarding things to happen to a 'guide' is to witness someone remembering.
It's marvellous to watch the muscles in the face start to drop and relax, which is very often accompanied by a faint smile which usually turns to full blown laughter.
I've always likened the 'awakening' to laughter because of the similarity in sound, "Aha...ha..ha ha ha ha."
That's not to say that everyone laughs though. Some seekers think this 'approach' is too simple and enlightenment/awakening/liberation etc., should imply working harder towards, so they feel more worthy!?
Then there are others who run a mile and stay away, and others who come back.
Whatever appears to happen, does not discriminate or refuse the constant and ongoing invitation to 'see'.
Oneness/Life/Nature {insert fav. word/symbol} is inclusive of all, and excluding no~thing and no~one.
It is what you already are...which may not yet be 'seen' or simply known in an elementary way, but never~the~less, life is presently happening, despite and regardless of anything else.
Free fall. :O)
It's marvellous to watch the muscles in the face start to drop and relax, which is very often accompanied by a faint smile which usually turns to full blown laughter.
I've always likened the 'awakening' to laughter because of the similarity in sound, "Aha...ha..ha ha ha ha."
That's not to say that everyone laughs though. Some seekers think this 'approach' is too simple and enlightenment/awakening/liberation etc., should imply working harder towards, so they feel more worthy!?
Then there are others who run a mile and stay away, and others who come back.
Whatever appears to happen, does not discriminate or refuse the constant and ongoing invitation to 'see'.
Oneness/Life/Nature {insert fav. word/symbol} is inclusive of all, and excluding no~thing and no~one.
It is what you already are...which may not yet be 'seen' or simply known in an elementary way, but never~the~less, life is presently happening, despite and regardless of anything else.
Free fall. :O)
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Solution Is Problem
There seems to be many different pathways towards finding this absence.
Ultimately, there is no path as such, once there's no one there seeking where the path ends.
But in the memory/movie/story of people I meet, the very way they communicate is already the answer.
I've always called it 'The Solution Is The Problem' and vice versa.
It's very simple, the way a particular person processes their communication, to the trained eye {or heart}, is the exact way or path their freedom would naturally unfold.
I'm really excited to be here and would like to talk more and share this with other guides as we all get to exchange our most efficient techniques.
This, right now, is a very interesting time to be alive.
But our freedom may lie in what we give up...or die to.
When fear of death is replaced as a wonder~full reminder of what is, right now, then death looses it's sting and life bursts through.
ToBe :O)
Ultimately, there is no path as such, once there's no one there seeking where the path ends.
But in the memory/movie/story of people I meet, the very way they communicate is already the answer.
I've always called it 'The Solution Is The Problem' and vice versa.
It's very simple, the way a particular person processes their communication, to the trained eye {or heart}, is the exact way or path their freedom would naturally unfold.
I'm really excited to be here and would like to talk more and share this with other guides as we all get to exchange our most efficient techniques.
This, right now, is a very interesting time to be alive.
But our freedom may lie in what we give up...or die to.
When fear of death is replaced as a wonder~full reminder of what is, right now, then death looses it's sting and life bursts through.
ToBe :O)
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I've never really traversed any spiritual 'path' but ever since I was around 5 years of age, I've experienced many 'switch ons' or awakenings. Ofcourse I didn't know that's what these 'happenings' were called because I wasn't spiritually seeking anything.
These continued to occur throughout the 70's and 80's whilst I was a teenager growing into a young man. One of these I remember in some detail:~ I was at a friends house and walked past a mirror, but where the usual recognition should have been at seeing my reflection, there was none. It was so unusual that I did not find this experience as a shock, but a natural and obvious seeing that what I called myself, was not 'over there' in the mirror or 'over here' for that matter. All I was left with was an overwhelmingly simple feeling that home was never not here.
Later on in my 30's I had another wonder~full experience of disappearing whilst actually being everything all at once. This was extreme in both regards, you see, it was a huge awakening that lasted quite some time. Then it faded. And I wanted it back so much, that it become a kind of curse if you will. Now seeking had started!
I began looking online and found huge amounts of information and different ways and techniques to try and repeat what I thought I'd lost. But somewhere, underneath all of the searching, was a growing and simple realisation that something so obvious was been missed.
After a few more years, the searching all dropped away and life in all it's raw, full~on experience, revealed itself to have never left or gone anywhere else.
Life is exactly the same as before. There is the usual and everyday occurrences which naturally happen in 'normal' day~to~day experiences. But there is left an ease with the laughing, the running, the working, the crying, the eating, the shopping, the driving etc., and this ease or is~ness is like a total and complete trust in the constant and never ending invitation to simply be. :O)
These continued to occur throughout the 70's and 80's whilst I was a teenager growing into a young man. One of these I remember in some detail:~ I was at a friends house and walked past a mirror, but where the usual recognition should have been at seeing my reflection, there was none. It was so unusual that I did not find this experience as a shock, but a natural and obvious seeing that what I called myself, was not 'over there' in the mirror or 'over here' for that matter. All I was left with was an overwhelmingly simple feeling that home was never not here.
Later on in my 30's I had another wonder~full experience of disappearing whilst actually being everything all at once. This was extreme in both regards, you see, it was a huge awakening that lasted quite some time. Then it faded. And I wanted it back so much, that it become a kind of curse if you will. Now seeking had started!
I began looking online and found huge amounts of information and different ways and techniques to try and repeat what I thought I'd lost. But somewhere, underneath all of the searching, was a growing and simple realisation that something so obvious was been missed.
After a few more years, the searching all dropped away and life in all it's raw, full~on experience, revealed itself to have never left or gone anywhere else.
Life is exactly the same as before. There is the usual and everyday occurrences which naturally happen in 'normal' day~to~day experiences. But there is left an ease with the laughing, the running, the working, the crying, the eating, the shopping, the driving etc., and this ease or is~ness is like a total and complete trust in the constant and never ending invitation to simply be. :O)
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Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
So seeing happens, and there's a simple recognition that there's no separate self.
For some people, it lasts, for a while, and then they're like, "...so now what?" lol
It appears within the story/movie that some people experience what they call an 'on and off' period, where they think at certain times they are everything and nothing, experiencing no self, at one, absent, in the now, being present, in the holy instant, etc., and then at other times they are out of that and back into illusion, attached, identified, lost, without purpose, seeking, searching, etc.
This begs the simple question: Whom is it that is in when they think they're out, and out when they think they should be in? lol
Ridiculousness is not excluded from wholeness.
And neither is wizdumb.
:O)
For some people, it lasts, for a while, and then they're like, "...so now what?" lol
It appears within the story/movie that some people experience what they call an 'on and off' period, where they think at certain times they are everything and nothing, experiencing no self, at one, absent, in the now, being present, in the holy instant, etc., and then at other times they are out of that and back into illusion, attached, identified, lost, without purpose, seeking, searching, etc.
This begs the simple question: Whom is it that is in when they think they're out, and out when they think they should be in? lol
Ridiculousness is not excluded from wholeness.
And neither is wizdumb.
:O)
Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
Hello ToBe.
You have posted in the Home section, indicating you are already liberated.
Tell us your story, how did you wake up, what happened, what changed, what brought you here. We will ask you some questions and once we see that you have seen through illusion of separate being we will change your colour to blue and you will be able to enter the hidden part of the forum, Unleashed.
If you like to join those who guide others, you will find some useful information there. We are looking forward to see you at our Facebook groups, links can be found here.
At present you are green and not permitted to guide on this forum.
Thanks!
Nona
You have posted in the Home section, indicating you are already liberated.
Tell us your story, how did you wake up, what happened, what changed, what brought you here. We will ask you some questions and once we see that you have seen through illusion of separate being we will change your colour to blue and you will be able to enter the hidden part of the forum, Unleashed.
If you like to join those who guide others, you will find some useful information there. We are looking forward to see you at our Facebook groups, links can be found here.
At present you are green and not permitted to guide on this forum.
Thanks!
Nona
"When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains—however improbable—must be the truth." ~ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
Hello Nona,Hello ToBe.
You have posted in the Home section, indicating you are already liberated.
Tell us your story, how did you wake up, what happened, what changed, what brought you here. We will ask you some questions and once we see that you have seen through illusion of separate being we will change your colour to blue and you will be able to enter the hidden part of the forum, Unleashed.
If you like to join those who guide others, you will find some useful information there. We are looking forward to see you at our Facebook groups, links can be found here.
At present you are green and not permitted to guide on this forum.
Thanks!
Nona
How many years have you been awake?
Would it be possible to communicate with someone who has lived this for twelve years or more?
Could you ask one of the guides who have over 8 years experience 'guiding', to contact me also?
Thanks,
ToBe
Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
Hello ToBe,
Do you believe there are degrees of awakeness based upon 'time'?
Is there some difficulty telling the circumstances of your liberation? That is what is done in the Home section: liberated tell how they woke up, what changed, what brought them to us.
Thank you,
Nona
Do you believe there are degrees of awakeness based upon 'time'?
Is there some difficulty telling the circumstances of your liberation? That is what is done in the Home section: liberated tell how they woke up, what changed, what brought them to us.
Thank you,
Nona
"When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains—however improbable—must be the truth." ~ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
Hello Nona,Do you believe there are degrees of awakeness based upon 'time'?
I neither believe or doubt that, but to be honest, can you really deny a depth or ease which seems to broaden and completely transform what you believed to be before?
So, in the appearance of time, how long have you apparently awakened?
It is effortless, and already posted above.Is there some difficulty telling the circumstances of your liberation?
Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
Hello ToBe,
The following are the questions that are asked of everyone who comes through the gateless gate. Please answer them in detail, even though some have been answered above.
1) Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever? how about self, is there anything that is separate from everything else?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.
3) How does it feel to see this? describe in detail.
4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.
5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was there a specific moment when seeing happened or was it gradual? what exactly happened?
6) When you say "I", what are you referring to?
7) Is there an experiencer experiencing, or is there only experience?
Thank you,
Nona
Apparently there was a problem with my browser as I did not see your description from Sept 15. Thank you for that.It is effortless, and already posted above.
No, I can't deny that. And I don't think it has to do with 'time'.to be honest, can you really deny a depth or ease which seems to broaden and completely transform what you believed to be before?
The following are the questions that are asked of everyone who comes through the gateless gate. Please answer them in detail, even though some have been answered above.
1) Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever? how about self, is there anything that is separate from everything else?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.
3) How does it feel to see this? describe in detail.
4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.
5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was there a specific moment when seeing happened or was it gradual? what exactly happened?
6) When you say "I", what are you referring to?
7) Is there an experiencer experiencing, or is there only experience?
Thank you,
Nona
"When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains—however improbable—must be the truth." ~ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
Hello Nona,
I wonder...do I want to join a 'club' such as this, where the entrance exam is adjudicated over by individuals who miss simple and obvious evidence of their own questioning?
Also, I've read a lot of material on the site, and there is a very limited and copied style of self enquiry going on.
You see, I guide guiders to not get stuck in limited choice and have guided them to much more efficient ways of observing how the question arises in the questioner or person seeking guidance.
Not what the question is about.
This, on this site, is completely missing, and I thought it would be a wonderful and expansive addition.
Having one choice of technique is very limiting.
Having two is a dilemma.
Having more than three, liberates the guide to guide in a more efficient way, rather than be stuck in the 'repeating' and bog standard 'approach' this little club sticks to.
There are many many different techniques as there are people to awaken.
In fact, when really and actually meeting people, it is simplicity itself and not to uncommon to have instant awakenings which last.
Whilst this web site is a marvellous idea, I think I'll stand on the periphery, and watch.
Thank you for your time.
All the best,
ToBe :O)
Nor I.No, I can't deny that. And I don't think it has to do with 'time'.
Over the last week, I have been in touch with three different members, and two out of these three have over looked something which was simply already there....I did not see your description...
I wonder...do I want to join a 'club' such as this, where the entrance exam is adjudicated over by individuals who miss simple and obvious evidence of their own questioning?
Also, I've read a lot of material on the site, and there is a very limited and copied style of self enquiry going on.
You see, I guide guiders to not get stuck in limited choice and have guided them to much more efficient ways of observing how the question arises in the questioner or person seeking guidance.
Not what the question is about.
This, on this site, is completely missing, and I thought it would be a wonderful and expansive addition.
Having one choice of technique is very limiting.
Having two is a dilemma.
Having more than three, liberates the guide to guide in a more efficient way, rather than be stuck in the 'repeating' and bog standard 'approach' this little club sticks to.
There are many many different techniques as there are people to awaken.
In fact, when really and actually meeting people, it is simplicity itself and not to uncommon to have instant awakenings which last.
Whilst this web site is a marvellous idea, I think I'll stand on the periphery, and watch.
Thank you for your time.
All the best,
ToBe :O)
Re: Let Life Be Your Guide
Hi ToBe. Thanks for letting me know.
Cheers
Nona
Cheers
Nona
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