Thank you
Ab
Awakent
Re: Awakent
Hi, Ve
Yesterday, I was thinking (or thinking was hapenning) that you really make me think
but then I thought, if you really make me think
then thinking is not random.
There appear to be many contradictions.
I am a little stuck here.
Have a great Sunday....Ab
Yesterday, I was thinking (or thinking was hapenning) that you really make me think
but then I thought, if you really make me think
then thinking is not random.
There appear to be many contradictions.
I am a little stuck here.
Have a great Sunday....Ab
Re: Awakent
Hi Abner,
seems that you realy think a lot instead of just doing the looking!
In your last post what you wrote is it thought or experience?
Don't engage in thought here!
Don't try to "get this" by logical conclusions!
If you want some feedback from me I would suggest you
1. realy take more time for each of my questions / exercises. Contradictions are in mind. Seeing is direct and 100%.
You almost answer very quick. Thats then often the mind answering. Let you "sink into the questions", go with it for a period of time, let the questions "realy touch you" and then answer.
2. continue with the cup exercise. I point there as direct as I can to SEEING / direct experience vs THINKING. Reread the questions about that exercise and answer my last question (you have not done it till now) ......
have also a great sunday
Love Ve
seems that you realy think a lot instead of just doing the looking!
In your last post what you wrote is it thought or experience?
Don't engage in thought here!
Don't try to "get this" by logical conclusions!
If you want some feedback from me I would suggest you
1. realy take more time for each of my questions / exercises. Contradictions are in mind. Seeing is direct and 100%.
You almost answer very quick. Thats then often the mind answering. Let you "sink into the questions", go with it for a period of time, let the questions "realy touch you" and then answer.
2. continue with the cup exercise. I point there as direct as I can to SEEING / direct experience vs THINKING. Reread the questions about that exercise and answer my last question (you have not done it till now) ......
have also a great sunday
Love Ve
Re: Awakent
is seeing more than color/form/shape
No, it is only color/form/shape
No, it is only color/form/shape
Re: Awakent
ok so what is the pure seeing of what you call "opening"? what shape/form does it have?
you can take your cup or this image, and realy LOOK don't do it in mind!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sr5p656kcz10h ... r.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zlchjqjbv1119uh/cup.png?dl=0
Would you say its round, oval, sqauered, rectangel, other?
another question (you need your own cup for this and put it on the tabel, don't touch and don't move yourself while answering):
what color or image is on the backside of the cup?
please stay with this questions until you are 100% sure of your answer what realy is SEEN!
you can take your cup or this image, and realy LOOK don't do it in mind!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sr5p656kcz10h ... r.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zlchjqjbv1119uh/cup.png?dl=0
Would you say its round, oval, sqauered, rectangel, other?
another question (you need your own cup for this and put it on the tabel, don't touch and don't move yourself while answering):
what color or image is on the backside of the cup?
please stay with this questions until you are 100% sure of your answer what realy is SEEN!
Re: Awakent
Because you put ... after 1st address cannot
Open. Please resend
I tried to copy and paste but it didnt work
Open. Please resend
I tried to copy and paste but it didnt work
Re: Awakent
Would you say its round, oval, sqauered, rectangel, other?
Couldnt view 1st address.
The 2nd is oval
what color or image is on the backside of the cup?
I can not see the back of the cup.
I expect the color is the same as the rest of
the cup...but for this exercise my ans. is
I really dont know, because I cant see it.
Be well.....Ab
Couldnt view 1st address.
The 2nd is oval
what color or image is on the backside of the cup?
I can not see the back of the cup.
I expect the color is the same as the rest of
the cup...but for this exercise my ans. is
I really dont know, because I cant see it.
Be well.....Ab
Re: Awakent
this is the other one
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sr5p656kcz10h ... r.png?dl=0
Which form/shape does it have what you cann "opening"?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sr5p656kcz10h ... r.png?dl=0
Which form/shape does it have what you cann "opening"?
Re: Awakent
Which form/shape does it have what you call "opening"?
(from pure SEEING)
(from pure SEEING)
Re: Awakent
Which form/shape does it have what you call "opening"?
(from pure SEEING)
From pure seeing it is oval
(from pure SEEING)
From pure seeing it is oval
Re: Awakent
ok, so now we check what is the difference between direct experience and "knowing"/thought
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
check it in reality, with looking at your cup.
and tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience?
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
check it in reality, with looking at your cup.
and tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience?
Re: Awakent
ok, so now we check what is the difference between direct experience and "knowing"/thought
Direct experience is what is seen...at that
moment.
Knowing/thought is filtered by memory.
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
check it in reality, with looking at your cup.
and tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience?
If I pick up the cup and look at it, the openning
is round...obviously
Direct experience is what is seen...at that
moment.
Knowing/thought is filtered by memory.
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
check it in reality, with looking at your cup.
and tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience?
If I pick up the cup and look at it, the openning
is round...obviously
Re: Awakent
If I pick up the cup and look at it, the openning
is round...obviously
no IF !!!!
is IF experience or thought?
do it as before. cup on tabel. donT touch. dont move yourself.
direct experience is allway here and now.
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience right now?
is round...obviously
no IF !!!!
is IF experience or thought?
do it as before. cup on tabel. donT touch. dont move yourself.
direct experience is allway here and now.
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience right now?
Re: Awakent
If I pick up the cup and look at it, the openning
is round...obviously
I only did what I thought you had suggested
no IF !!!!
is IF experience or thought?
If is thought
do it as before. cup on tabel. donT touch. dont move yourself.
direct experience is allway here and now.
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience right now?
Direct experience is here and now.
Thought is memory
is round...obviously
I only did what I thought you had suggested
no IF !!!!
is IF experience or thought?
If is thought
do it as before. cup on tabel. donT touch. dont move yourself.
direct experience is allway here and now.
once you said the opening is round
next time you said it is oval.
tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience right now?
Direct experience is here and now.
Thought is memory
Re: Awakent
tell me, what is thought and what is direct experience right now?
Direct experience is here and now.
-> what IS the direct experience? is the experience "round" or "oval" or other?
Thought is memory
-> what IS the thought? it "round" or "oval" or non or other?
Direct experience is here and now.
-> what IS the direct experience? is the experience "round" or "oval" or other?
Thought is memory
-> what IS the thought? it "round" or "oval" or non or other?
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