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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:36 pm

Hi
Are you experiencing awareness right now?
Could you answer in just yes or no?
No

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:36 pm

How is awareness perceived, when it is not experienced
in this moment?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:30 pm

How is awareness perceived, when it is not experienced
in this moment?
If awareness is not experienced in this moment it is not perceived in this moment? But in another moment (when fully present in the moment) it can be experienced?

Is perception the same as experience? Perception is the story thought is attaching to the experience?

If there is no experience of awareness there will be no thought-story (perception) of awareness?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:11 am

Hi. :)

Please answer the previous question;
You said you don’t experience awareness
right now.

How is awareness perceived, when it is
not perceived in this moment?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:12 am

Instead of asking questions regarding
the question above, please just tell
how you perceive it.

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:48 pm

Hi :)
Please just tell how you perceive it (awareness).
It is perceived (consciously noticed) ONLY when the mind is quiet. Perhaps it can cause the mind to quieten but i think it happens the other way round. I feel a stillness, a spaciousness, an utter peace, a blurring of boundaries (where does the body stop and start, no sense of being bounded by walls, ceiling, floor of a room for example. Sometimes tears arise and there is a strange sensation in the chest.

It is perceived as always having been here, yet "I" am normally too distracted to witness it's presence.

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:53 pm

Hi. :)

Ok, is it fair to say that you are talking about the remembrance of
something perceived before, instead of what is here, right now?

Is that something different from a mere memory?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:20 pm

Hi :)
Ok, is it fair to say that you are talking about the remembrance of something perceived before
Perceived before:
It is perceived (consciously noticed) ONLY when the mind is quiet.

Sometimes tears arise

It is perceived as always having been here.
Thought when I was writing:
Perhaps it can cause the mind to quieten but i think it happens the other way round

"I" am normally too distracted to witness it's presence
Here right now: (when I was writing)
I feel a stillness, a spaciousness, an utter peace, a blurring of boundaries (where does the body stop and start, no sense of being bounded by walls, ceiling, floor of a room for example). Tears arise and there is a strange sensation in the chest.

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:23 pm

Peace, stillness, boundlessness are also a remembrance of something perceived before

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:29 pm

Hi! Please take the questions literally, read it carefully without interpretation,
and answer only what is asked, ok?

Is it fair to say, when you are talking about "awareness,"
that you are talking about the remembrance of something perceived before?

Just in yes or no, please?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:37 pm

Hi.

(Sorry. Its hard to answer just yes or no when neither seems to fit and the answer lies somewhere between the two. I feel I could answer either but each would be as incorrect as it is correct. And I'm.trying to be honest)
Is it fair to say, when you are talking about "awareness,"
that you are talking about the remembrance of something perceived before?.
Yes

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:55 pm

Thanks, yes, I can understand what you wrote about the ambiguity.

That may suggest something is not clear enough and needs further investigation.

Please take your time, as much time as needed, to post an answer. It is important
not to answer for the purpose of giving an answer ... am I making sense?


Now, is it fair to say that remembrance of something perceived before is memory?
That it is a visualization mixed with thought?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:43 pm

Thank you
Please take your time, as much time as needed, to post an answer. It is important
not to answer for the purpose of giving an answer ... am I making sense?
Yes I understand. (The next two questions were easy for me to answer in any case)
Now, is it fair to say that remembrance of something perceived before is memory?
Yes
That it is a visualization mixed with thought?
Yes

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:50 pm

Thank you. :)

Have you noticed anything new, regarding what you call awareness?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:10 pm

Hi :)
Have you noticed anything new, regarding what you call awareness?
I don't think so, not really.

Although...sometimes I feel full, bursting with gratitude. I think thats new, or more recent at any rate


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