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Hendrik
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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:34 pm

the words "be honest" triggered a great amount of fear of maybe lying to myself and you.

Below the stillness below this is still here.

Fear etc happens - when I don´t claim this as mine, the space stays open

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby pop » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:45 pm

That's great Hendrik

When you look you can't lie so don't worry.

Fear etc happens - when I don´t claim this as mine, the space stays open
It's good that you see how you don't need to claim this sensation.
Fear is an on-going pointer to contractions and blind spots. This is fine. Welcome it. Look at it when it arises.

Is there an I anywhere in that space? Is there an I that is fearful?

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:01 pm

Dear Pop,

there was strong fear - which is not me
and there was a "taste" of a habitual thought of personhood - which is not me

there is the space - in which that happens.
In this space there is no I

The space is still there when the movement of "I" is there or has left

This space has no I, it is space

Love

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:07 pm

... this space is not touched by I-feeling/thought or other movements

At this moment it feels a bit strange to call this movement "I"

Love

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:23 pm

... the space is not fearful :-)

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby pop » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:08 pm

Is the space an object?
Is the space you?

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:21 pm

Dear Pop,

the space is no object.

I cannot really say that I am the space: the space has no feeling of I in it. The space is.

In this space there is nobody.

Love
Hendrik

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby pop » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:05 pm

What's around the space?

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:35 am

Dear Pop,

this space does not care for physical reality, it kind of permeats perception/perceived objects and at the same time it is beyond. I cannot find thomething that really is around it. This space "stretches" beyond borders.

Love

Hendrik

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby pop » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:44 pm

Can you find Hendrik in the space?

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:21 pm

The space is devoid of Hendrik

Love
?

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:11 pm

Dear Pop,

when "I" am trying to open into spaciousness then the person seems to be real. Still: what is moving has no own "me".

When there is more relaxing and recognizing then there is no Hendrik to be found.

And all that movement is seen - all that is moving is objective, dancing (or not) - but all is seen by something that has no me, that gives no comment and is always here.

Love
Hendrik (or what is left...)

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby pop » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:16 pm

Hi!

And all that movement is seen

Seen by what?


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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby Hendrik » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:39 pm

Hi Pop,

the sensations in the belly or in the throat or head cannot see.

The space is surrounding all that.

Nobody sees.

Love
Hendrik

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Re: calloffthesearch

Postby pop » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:50 pm

Who knows this?


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