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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:28 pm

Are you able to identify this anywhere in particular in the body? Are there any particular physical sensations ?
x Sioned
Yesterday the whole body felt anxious and threatened. It wants everything to stay the same. Throughout the day however, it centered as tension in the abdomen. Later, I was just aware of my heart in my chest. No anxiety just feeling my whole heart beating.

By evening I had switched over to observation mode. Thoughts were arising and feelings were arising within awareness. I was just watching the show. And gee, I could still drive a car! Ha ha.

Today I feel a tension in the heart. More of an excitement than anxiety but still anxiety. I am aware of a silence that is getting louder if that is possible. I am reading the two LU books as we are going through this process.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:40 pm

Hi Gregory,
That's interesting exploring.
I especially like
I am aware of a silence that is getting louder
Some more questions around fear for you to ponder:
Ask it to reveal why it’s here, what it is trying to tell you, ask the fear to share its wisdom.
If there is no self, then there is nothing that needs to be protected, right?
Honor the feeling. Bow to it, thank it for doing its job. Notice, it is here to protect, it's a friend. Fear is really love in disguise. It is only showing you where to look, the dark areas.
Now, look behind it.
Is there anything behind the fear?
if so, what? And what is behind that?
(note that the silence is not the absence of an answer, it is the answer)


Feel free to ignore some of the questions if they don't feel relevant.
I'm off to bed now! Good night
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:17 am

Ask it to reveal why it’s here, what it is trying to tell you, ask the fear to share its wisdom.
Fear has been a good friend to me. It has helped me see what needs attention and it has helped me stay safe. Fear speaks and I listen. Fear is telling me to be careful with this process. It is showing freedom. What a responsibility. The ego says don’t change too much too fast. Be gentle with this organism. Nothing HAS to change. Relax.
Is there anything behind the fear?
if so, what? And what is behind that?
I cannot see anything behind the fear. An open space. An emptiness observing. Nothing to hold onto or grasp.

The fear has an element of excitement to it. Not knowing what is next. A few funny things happened today that made me laugh out loud as if the Universe was playing with me; speaking to me; welcoming me home.

I feel a bit spacey. Missing some minor details. I feel on the edge of something. The minds says it’s BIG. Be careful! The Universe says it’s neither big or small. It’s just what is. Relax.

I like how you said silence is the answer.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:15 am

Morning Gregory
Lovely, lovely answers, open and true. Thank-you.
There's no need for me to comment on them more, I feel. But be assured that I have taken them in.

Now some questions about your expectations for you to ponder
What do you expect that liberation is going to be like?
What do you want from it?
How do you imagine a liberated human behaves?
What should it be like?
What will it give you, what do you hope for?
What don't you want it to be like?

Let me know what you find
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:05 pm

I am traveling out of state today and will be responding tomorrow morning. I look forward to it.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:12 pm

What do you expect that liberation is going to be like?
I have had several altered states of consciousness that has lasted days to weeks that I have called “being in the flow”. During these I have said to my family “I am learning to walk again”. So a definite switch from what I am now or something totally new or simply the ordinary. I am trying to stay open as possible.
What do you want from it?
A real sense of humor in relation to anything that might happen. A trust in the Universe. That the Universe is loving and guided by a supreme intelligence. That’s all!
How do you imagine a liberated human behaves?
The liberated human sees through the ego and all of its fabrications. This human realizes the limitations of mental perception and knows when he does not know. This leaves him humble and compassionate to all beings. His actions and words are not dictated and limited to the past. He appears spontaneous and new. Because the walls of the ego mind are seen through, he taps into a higher wisdom and guidance from beyond. He can be a light to others.
What will it give you, what do you hope for?
What don't you want it to be like?
A flow experience. A unity of mind, body, physical world and nonphysical worlds. All one: beautifully connected and speaking to each other. A feeling of ease and humor regarding all thoughts, feelings and experiences. That’s not to much to ask for!
I don’t wish no self to be irresponsible and unable to manage the daily details of life. I want to see others in Truth and not better or worse. I don’t want no self to be disrespectful or unloving.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:28 pm

Hi Gregory,
What do you expect that liberation is going to be like?
a definite switch from what I am now or something totally new or simply the ordinary. I am trying to stay open as possible.
great
What do you want from it?
A real sense of humor in relation to anything that might happen
love it!

Your other answers are fine too.

Just bear in mind that all expectations, no matter what you expect is not what it is going to be like. Anytime you feel stuck, come back to expectations, if there is something that you think that should be happening, but it isn't- there is an expectation behind it. They are not useful but in the way.

Here's an exercise for you to look at:
Imagine that you are holding a spoon. Imagine form, size, weight, temperature, keep it there, close your eyes, and feel the imaginary spoon.
Open your eyes; is there a spoon here, in real life?
So how did you see that there is no spoon?
What happened to the spoon?
Did it disappear or it never existed?


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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:39 pm

Here's an exercise for you to look at:
Imagine that you are holding a spoon. Imagine form, size, weight, temperature, keep it there, close your eyes, and feel the imaginary spoon.
Open your eyes; is there a spoon here, in real life?
So how did you see that there is no spoon?
What happened to the spoon?
Did it disappear or it never existed?
I created a spoon in my mind’s eye. Precisely. When I opened my eyes there was no spoon. I could however remember and see the spoon in my mind but not in front of me.
What happened to the spoon?
Nothing happened to any spoon. The spoon was created by my imagination. There never was a spoon.
Is the self nothing more than a spoon? It would be like losing nothing. The notion of a self seems more wide ranging. How much of my life is tied into this notion of a self? Are it’s roots deep or not? I look into the world and there is no spoon. I look into the world and there is no self. What about inside my body or mind? Is there something I can see that is looking? That is like asking does the thinker ever appear in thought? No and no. If there is no seer or thinker to be seen, then what is going on here? I’m just thinking out loud here not expecting you to answer the questions.

Your time is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:15 am

Brilliant reflections here!
I'm going to be out till this evening, sio will leave you with that in the meantime

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:23 pm

Hi
Notice, that there was no boom and no bright light flashes in the eyes when the imaginary spoon was no longer imagined. Remember this, a shift is not going to be more than this, it’s just a drop of belief- the glue that holds the illusion together.

Look around the room you are in and notice what is real. What is here now? Notice things, notice looking around the room. If you think that this world is not real, check it against an imaginary picture.
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:39 pm

Notice, that there was no boom and no bright light flashes in the eyes when the imaginary spoon was no longer imagined. Remember this, a shift is not going to be more than this, it’s just a drop of belief- the glue that holds the illusion together
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I consider this good news and simple. It would be easy to self create another illusion going through this process including the no-selfs and the selfs.
Look around the room you are in and notice what is real. What is here now? Notice things, notice looking around the room. If you think that this world is not real, check it against an imaginary picture.
I experience the room I see as real. An imagined room would be very inaccurate and not really an experience at all.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:44 pm

Good
Next...
Close your eyes and imagine you are in the kitchen. Just visualize and look around, notice where things are put. Notice the space, the feel of it.
This is an image, it can trigger feelings and contractions - expansions, thought stories and feelings attached to them.

Open your eyes and see how an image can be created and explored in the mind.

Go to the kitchen and look at the same things that you saw in the image, how does imagining and experiencing the same things differ? Is the image of the kitchen and experience of the kitchen the same?

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:27 pm

First I would like to share a nice state of being that was experienced yesterday afternoon and evening. I don’t know exactly when it started. I was running some errands and I noticed a lightness to my body. Walking felt different. The body had no stress in it. I could feel the whole body smoothly moving through space working with gravity. The mind felt unburdened and an easy smile kept breaking across my face. This lasted into the evening as I sat in my counseling/reading room. When I felt like it, and heard/saw a car drive by, I would inquire is someone hearing or is there just hearing? Is there an I seeing or just seeing. I called an old old friend who shares in this awareness and had a long delightful talk. Another friend called me later who needed some help. All was seamless. I almost didn’t want to go to sleep.
Go to the kitchen and look at the same things that you saw in the image, how does imagining and experiencing the same things differ? Is the image of the kitchen and experience of the kitchen the same?
I feel the image and the experience is completely different. Although I must admit the imagination is pretty darn good, I much prefer the experience. The image is based on memory and does not get everything right. Many details are left out and the colors are no where near the same. The definition of objects are vague in the image and there is not much of a 3D effect. It’s more like a flat screen. The image and experience are wildly different. Why settle for an image when you can have the real thing?

All of this begs the question, Why settle for a self image or an imaginary I? When there is looking for the seer, the hearer, the feeler, the thinker, there appears to be a choice. Do I want to make up or remember who I think I am or do I inquire and see the Truth? Can I sit with experience moment to moment or do I want to construct an abstraction to be bothered by it all? And finally, is there even a choice? Really.
My chest rattles. Is it fear or excitement? I can’t tell the difference. It’s all just what’s happening! Maybe I’m cold. 😊

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:50 am

Hi Gregory
First I would like to share a nice state of being that was experienced yesterday afternoon and evening. I don’t know exactly when it started. I was running some errands and I noticed a lightness to my body. Walking felt different. The body had no stress in it. I could feel the whole body smoothly moving through space working with gravity. The mind felt unburdened and an easy smile kept breaking across my face. This lasted into the evening as I sat in my counseling/reading room. When I felt like it, and heard/saw a car drive by, I would inquire is someone hearing or is there just hearing? Is there an I seeing or just seeing. I called an old old friend who shares in this awareness and had a long delightful talk. Another friend called me later who needed some help. All was seamless. I almost didn’t want to go to sleep.
how lovely! and encouraging!
I feel the image and the experience is completely different. Although I must admit the imagination is pretty darn good, I much prefer the experience. The image is based on memory and does not get everything right. Many details are left out and the colors are no where near the same. The definition of objects are vague in the image and there is not much of a 3D effect. It’s more like a flat screen. The image and experience are wildly different
great
Doing well!
Next:
Focus on the image of me, the separate individual entity, is it an image or an actual entity?
(I think that you have sort of already pre-empted this, but give it a go anyway)
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:44 pm

Holiday company. Will respond tomorrow.
Peace,
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