It is time ......

[DavidB]

Hi Stafford,
I think I know what is going on with me. Some elements of this ‘way of seeing’ came to me a while ago. Sometimes it feels ‘clear’ and other times ‘a lot less clear!’…. If you know what I mean…..
I think that I am anxious that I haven’t really seen this and that I am being fraudulent. How can I have seen something that is so hard to see and that humans have been searching for, for much of history.
I’m scared of self-delusion, yet really there isn’t even a self to get deluded…
At the moment, through this work with you, I am seeing my ‘I’ pop in and out of focus. I guess maybe that’s just the way it is, it’s not like it just disappears.

So the next bit of the question……..

What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?

I think it was a combination of events. I think the care I felt from you as a guide really softened my heart and the conversations we had and the Tony Parson’s text you sent me led me to a ‘deep place/ and into a deep reflection’. I had the experience of ‘looking out of from behind my eyes’ realising there wasn’t anyone actually behind them (if that can make sense)…. Like there was a ‘looking out of space’ which made me cry. I think having to report back to you particularly helped me stay with the looking… reading a book can be a lonely exercise, but actually having a guide makes it a real life experience.

If I’m honest I’m not totally sure I have been ‘pushed over’ completely. ‘I’ is still hanging on by it’s fingernails……… thinking about it makes me feel emotional but I am not sure why?

Thanks for all of your compassionate help,

Dave

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford,
I think I know what is going on with me. Some elements of this ‘way of seeing’ came to me a while ago. Sometimes it feels ‘clear’ and other times ‘a lot less clear!’…. If you know what I mean…..
I think that I am anxious that I haven’t really seen this and that I am being fraudulent. How can I have seen something that is so hard to see and that humans have been searching for, for much of history.
I’m scared of self-delusion, yet really there isn’t even a self to get deluded…
At the moment, through this work with you, I am seeing my ‘I’ pop in and out of focus. I guess maybe that’s just the way it is, it’s not like it just disappears.

So the next bit of the question……..

What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?

I think it was a combination of events. I think the care I felt from you as a guide really softened my heart and the conversations we had and the Tony Parson’s text you sent me led me to a ‘deep place/ and into a deep reflection’. I had the experience of ‘looking out of from behind my eyes’ realising there wasn’t anyone actually behind them (if that can make sense)…. Like there was a ‘looking out of space’ which made me cry. I think having to report back to you particularly helped me stay with the looking… reading a book can be a lonely exercise, but actually having a guide makes it a real life experience.

If I’m honest I’m not totally sure I have been ‘pushed over’ completely. ‘I’ is still hanging on by it’s fingernails……… thinking about it makes me feel emotional but I am not sure why?

Thanks for all of your compassionate help,

Dave

Hi Stafford,

Could you just clarify the question you asked please my friend,

OK so I Like Too, if You Would Kindly go into what the difference between personal & actual

Do you mean between my perception of it and the actual? Or do you mean the next question?

Luvi'n it all,

Dave

Dear David my Friend I Really really understand & can Totally Relate with You in Every Way & Word !!! I still get emotional angry & personal !!! Everything & Nothing has Changed, even Seeing This Through Clearly that I'm Nothing but a Created Image & the I Still pops in & out of focus !?! So This isn't known in a Learned Knowledgeable way, So no need Worry about self delusion Really nothing too get only Seeing No One Home, only Phenomenal images that feel & seem like real & always happening in the past tense !?!
David my Friend it's So Close & So Simple most Everyone thinks its Everything Else but What IT IS, So Special & can Only Be Attained by The Elite extra !!! No Not That Not That Just Being Beyond Concepts & Understanding Just Seeing Hearing & Feeling without Why Who or What !!! ¿¿¿
Ok my Dear David I'd like You to contemplate about What You Need Too Do To Be & Why The Answer You get Wouldn't Be The Right Answer ?!? Love Being Here with You David & does matter how much time We take, Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford


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[StaffordJR]

Hi David Typo on the very last part oops Lol, I ment Too Say IT Dosent matter How Long This Takes because it's Already The Case for You & Every Supposed One ;~} =_= {~;
David I So Hope The Day or Night is serving You Well Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[DavidB]

Hi Stafford,

thank you for your continued support (even though it seems that there isn't really a Stafford to guide or a Dave to receive guidance…….). As to your question,

David I'd like You to contemplate about What You Need To Do To Be & Why The Answer You get Wouldn't Be The Right Answer ?!?

....it appears that there is not a separate part of me that decides to 'be' ...... 'being' is just happening without any intent. Also much of the time the business of 'being' just goes on without a 'me' watching it all. Every now and then there is a sense of 'focus' and there can appear to be someone detached 'watching' the event. I guess up until recently, if anything has resembled a 'me', it is that 'watcher' of events. But on closer inspection, that 'watcher' appears to be just the 'act of watching' and not a 'me’ either. So what is it that knows or understands there is no real separate self? I guess it just has to be ‘knowing’.

Why The Answer You get, Wouldn't Be The Right Answer ?!?

I guess I feel the reason that any answer wouldn’t be the ‘right’ answer is because I know it is the mind that will come up with an answer, as there is nothing else to come up with one. The mind always seems to claim that it has come to conclusions, got answers, seen something ‘deeply’, but then it seems to forget. I guess ‘my’ peek into ‘no-self’ and ‘nothingness’ suggests that there really aren’t any ‘answers’, ‘right’ or ‘wrong’…. As in-fact, even the questions are probably debateable and nonsensical, based on the bullshit of ‘the wanting to know mind!’. The mind wants to make sense of / create order out of this bloody chaos (that isn’t even chaos, because ‘chaos’ is just another word or idea) so that it (the mind) can feel a little more secure.
So all the questions, conceptualisations, answers and lack of them are all like pissing in the wind. Whatever we are, we are intrinsically part of everything else, the universal soup…. How can there be separateness or even complete oneness. All these ideas come from the mind, as does my image of what I think of as myself. Any attempt to work it out is totally insane, although there is no such a state as insanity.
It’s probably best not to speak…maybe just best to fart and belch when what we call ‘the body’ needs to!!!! I am smiling myself to bed as searching is so fucking stupid!!!!
Ha! Ha! Stafford me ‘ole cobber …. What a laugh!!!!
Luvin ya X

(I am now away for about five days so will be quiet again…. I will answer the last bits if and when I ever come back…although there is no-one really going to or from anywhere…………….)

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford,

thank you for your continued support (even though it seems that there isn't really a Stafford to guide or a Dave to receive guidance…….). As to your question,

David I'd like You to contemplate about What You Need To Do To Be & Why The Answer You get Wouldn't Be The Right Answer ?!?

....it appears that there is not a separate part of me that decides to 'be' ...... 'being' is just happening without any intent. Also much of the time the business of 'being' just goes on without a 'me' watching it all. Every now and then there is a sense of 'focus' and there can appear to be someone detached 'watching' the event. I guess up until recently, if anything has resembled a 'me', it is that 'watcher' of events. But on closer inspection, that 'watcher' appears to be just the 'act of watching' and not a 'me’ either. So what is it that knows or understands there is no real separate self? I guess it just has to be ‘knowing’.

Why The Answer You get, Wouldn't Be The Right Answer ?!?

I guess I feel the reason that any answer wouldn’t be the ‘right’ answer is because I know it is the mind that will come up with an answer, as there is nothing else to come up with one. The mind always seems to claim that it has come to conclusions, got answers, seen something ‘deeply’, but then it seems to forget. I guess ‘my’ peek into ‘no-self’ and ‘nothingness’ suggests that there really aren’t any ‘answers’, ‘right’ or ‘wrong’…. As in-fact, even the questions are probably debateable and nonsensical, based on the bullshit of ‘the wanting to know mind!’. The mind wants to make sense of / create order out of this bloody chaos (that isn’t even chaos, because ‘chaos’ is just another word or idea) so that it (the mind) can feel a little more secure.
So all the questions, conceptualisations, answers and lack of them are all like pissing in the wind. Whatever we are, we are intrinsically part of everything else, the universal soup…. How can there be separateness or even complete oneness. All these ideas come from the mind, as does my image of what I think of as myself. Any attempt to work it out is totally insane, although there is no such a state as insanity.
It’s probably best not to speak…maybe just best to fart and belch when what we call ‘the body’ needs to!!!! I am smiling myself to bed as searching is so fucking stupid!!!!
Ha! Ha! Stafford me ‘ole cobber …. What a laugh!!!!
Luvin ya X

(I am now away for about five days so will be quiet again…. I will answer the last bits if and when I ever come back…although there is no-one really going to or from anywhere…………….)

Beautifully Clear my Friend in this Illusion !!! Have a Beautiful Holiday & we'll continue or not Lol when & if You Feel The Need Much Love Yours Truly Stafford

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[StaffordJR]

Hi Too Who ever it was that's was named David Lol, just wanted to let You Know it was Wonderful too Be on This Journey with You & will Be Here anytime You need any clarification, Which nothing Really too clarify only seems like at Times !!! Oh & Welcome Home & Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[DavidB]

Hi Stafford,

I am back from my holiday…. I hope you are well…… and so onto Question 5.

Describe decision, intention free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience

Describe decision, intention free will, choice and control

Decision, intention, free will, choice and control are all ideas that ‘we’ believe ‘we can have’. In reality they are just ‘ideas’ that occur. If there is no ‘I’ then ‘I’ cannot make choices or ‘own’ them. We may believe these are choices, but essentially there is no one at home to make these so called choices, or to have control etc.

What makes things happen?

Things happen because things happened before, and things before that happened also……… Things happening create more things to happen. It seems to be the nature of reality for things to happen.

How does it work

A boy throws a stone thrown into the water creating ripples because he is upset at something his mother said. His mother is unhappy as her father had hurt her emotionally when he was alive, but now she feels frustrated she will never be able to ‘clear the air’. The stone hitting the water disturbs a family of fish, killing one of their children. The fish view it as a natural disaster and then promptly forget it ever happened. The ripples of ‘happening’ just happen, creating further ripples. No one knows how or why the ripples started, even if they ever really ‘started’ as such, but they continue and we are part of those ripples. Any attempt to describe any of the experience in words is ridiculous, but occasionally seems stupidly necessary.

What are you responsible for?

Well basically we would all be fucked if we actually existed……….. but luckily there isn’t really anyone here, at home, present etc. It feels like there is, but on closer examination ‘no one’ actually comes forward to reveal themselves. The Self is like a theatre for actors and actresses to assume their roles… The theatre itself is just a space where it happens…… The theatre space isn’t human and doesn’t get involved in all the games of acting…it’s just a space…. You can even tear down the theatre and plant a grass park…… it doesn’t care… it’s just ‘space’ in which events can take place…… Nothing can really be said by the beings / actors in the space in relation to it, as they can never get to grips with it…….. ‘Thought’ just creates further ripples……….. Even calling it ‘Space’ is just a futile attempt to label it…….

Give examples from experience

‘I’ do not want there to be suffering in the world and ‘I’ want it to stop. ‘I’ feel ‘I’ should try to change the world. ‘I’ try, but in doing so ‘I’ push others away due to ‘my’ radical beliefs. ‘I’ become vegetarian, but after years of being vegetarian, ‘I’ find that others feel ‘I’ am bad as ‘I’ am not a vegan and therefore they see me supporting an evil dairy industry.
Within the ‘me’ that I often feel I am, I try to make more skilful decisions that unskilful ones, but ultimately realise that there is no real me and no real ‘them’s…. (and no real decisions)….. In knowing this, there is also a knowing that nearly all beings believe that they do ‘exist’ and therefore experience the pain that comes with existing. The ‘ripples’ that have created the sense of ‘me’ have also somehow created a sense of empathy (which is perhaps ultimately also bullshit), but those ripples continue to be active.

Anything to add?

‘I’ and ‘Me’ always wants to add to things…… stir the water….create more ripples……….best not to ‘add’….. best to sit here and breath………

But just one more thing……………….(Ha bloody Ha!)

Luv ya,

Dave

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford,

I am back from my holiday…. I hope you are well…… and so onto Question 5.

Describe decision, intention free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience

Describe decision, intention free will, choice and control

Decision, intention, free will, choice and control are all ideas that ‘we’ believe ‘we can have’. In reality they are just ‘ideas’ that occur. If there is no ‘I’ then ‘I’ cannot make choices or ‘own’ them. We may believe these are choices, but essentially there is no one at home to make these so called choices, or to have control etc.

What makes things happen?

Things happen because things happened before, and things before that happened also……… Things happening create more things to happen. It seems to be the nature of reality for things to happen.

How does it work

A boy throws a stone thrown into the water creating ripples because he is upset at something his mother said. His mother is unhappy as her father had hurt her emotionally when he was alive, but now she feels frustrated she will never be able to ‘clear the air’. The stone hitting the water disturbs a family of fish, killing one of their children. The fish view it as a natural disaster and then promptly forget it ever happened. The ripples of ‘happening’ just happen, creating further ripples. No one knows how or why the ripples started, even if they ever really ‘started’ as such, but they continue and we are part of those ripples. Any attempt to describe any of the experience in words is ridiculous, but occasionally seems stupidly necessary.

What are you responsible for?

Well basically we would all be fucked if we actually existed……….. but luckily there isn’t really anyone here, at home, present etc. It feels like there is, but on closer examination ‘no one’ actually comes forward to reveal themselves. The Self is like a theatre for actors and actresses to assume their roles… The theatre itself is just a space where it happens…… The theatre space isn’t human and doesn’t get involved in all the games of acting…it’s just a space…. You can even tear down the theatre and plant a grass park…… it doesn’t care… it’s just ‘space’ in which events can take place…… Nothing can really be said by the beings / actors in the space in relation to it, as they can never get to grips with it…….. ‘Thought’ just creates further ripples……….. Even calling it ‘Space’ is just a futile attempt to label it…….

Give examples from experience

‘I’ do not want there to be suffering in the world and ‘I’ want it to stop. ‘I’ feel ‘I’ should try to change the world. ‘I’ try, but in doing so ‘I’ push others away due to ‘my’ radical beliefs. ‘I’ become vegetarian, but after years of being vegetarian, ‘I’ find that others feel ‘I’ am bad as ‘I’ am not a vegan and therefore they see me supporting an evil dairy industry.
Within the ‘me’ that I often feel I am, I try to make more skilful decisions that unskilful ones, but ultimately realise that there is no real me and no real ‘them’s…. (and no real decisions)….. In knowing this, there is also a knowing that nearly all beings believe that they do ‘exist’ and therefore experience the pain that comes with existing. The ‘ripples’ that have created the sense of ‘me’ have also somehow created a sense of empathy (which is perhaps ultimately also bullshit), but those ripples continue to be active.

Anything to add?

‘I’ and ‘Me’ always wants to add to things…… stir the water….create more ripples……….best not to ‘add’….. best to sit here and breath………

But just one more thing……………….(Ha bloody Ha!)

Luv ya,

Dave

Hi & Welcome Home my friend in this Illusion Your Through The Gate ¡ ! ¡
I have to send this too the End of Conversation Thread so Administration can confirm Your Clarity & You'll get invited to a Facebook after care group & when this settles in maybe try & Be a Guide Yourself !?! It's Been my Pleasure Guiding You & Please message me if Ever You like to talk, Sending You Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[DavidB]

Hi Stafford,

Thanks for your care and guidance. I would totally love to keep in contact through messaging you.

Thank you for taking so much care with me, but for also challenging me when it has been necessary. 'I' would really appreciate being part of an after-care group (if that is what you called it). Maybe guiding in the future is possible, but I need some time to allow this to stabilize (if that's what it wants to do.....)

I feel a bit emotional as it feels a bit like a 'parting', but the option to message you is great..... Thanks!

I realized after writing my last log, that there was a much greater sense of clarity. Along with that, came an awareness that there was an obvious attraction to LU straight away when 'I' came across it. The ripples created in what I call 'my life' met the ripples of LU and there was an immediate merging of ripular activity......'I' am really pleased about that.

A real examination of 'what we are' appears to reveal equally that 'we are not'. All the words in the world cant answer questions that have no real answers. Once uttered, the questions become ridiculous.

Sending luv.

A being they named Dave X

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford,

Thanks for your care and guidance. I would totally love to keep in contact through messaging you.

Thank you for taking so much care with me, but for also challenging me when it has been necessary. 'I' would really appreciate being part of an after-care group (if that is what you called it). Maybe guiding in the future is possible, but I need some time to allow this to stabilize (if that's what it wants to do.....)

I feel a bit emotional as it feels a bit like a 'parting', but the option to message you is great..... Thanks!

I realized after writing my last log, that there was a much greater sense of clarity. Along with that, came an awareness that there was an obvious attraction to LU straight away when 'I' came across it. The ripples created in what I call 'my life' met the ripples of LU and there was an immediate merging of ripular activity......'I' am really pleased about that.

A real examination of 'what we are' appears to reveal equally that 'we are not'. All the words in the world cant answer questions that have no real answers. Once uttered, the questions become ridiculous.

Sending luv.

A being they named Dave X

My Dear
Being who's NAME (Not Actually ME ) was
David You're So Welcome & Thank You for Your Kindness & Your willingness too Be Honest & Look at what's actually Happening & Wow Right ?¿? / !¡! \ ¡?¡
My Internet has been weird & so I lost some Threads unfortunately, But fortunately I have our last few conversations & just got to send them too our administration & they should let us know if anything needs more clarification, can't what that would Be However have too go with the flow Lol !?! In the meantime just because You & the Search is over doesn't mean there can't Be a Friendship Here on, I'd Totally Appreciate that !!! Loved Being here with You & will continue our Relationship as long as it last for sure my Friend !!! Here's my Email contact me any Time !!! stafford.riggs@yahoo.com
Sending You Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford


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[StaffordJR]

""""""Hello Stafford. Delma here, filling in for Kay at the moment.

I've got a question for David, please. In the beginning, he says "I am hoping that (a) guided conversation(s) will assist me to move beyond my present mind-based 'intellectual' understandings of the ideas of 'no-self' so that there begins to be a greater 'holistic' experience of it"

Can you ask him to point you to the moment he moved from an intellectual-based understanding to a holistic experience of it?

And I have two questions for you:
1. While guiding, when/where (the point in the thread) did you sense a shift?

2. Did you observe what looked like an emotional shift that went along with the understanding? Can you point to it?""""""

Hi Delma & Apologies not sure how long You've been wanting for an answer & Thanks for Your Patience ?!? As for Your questions, I sensed a shift between posts 49 & 50 & has had a few emotional shifts, however by going over His posts again I noticed a few I guesses that jumped out at me & this isn't a guess, its Clearly Seeing no one home !!! So I'll ask Him What You wanted me Too ask, When Exactly did He Shift from intellectual understanding to Seeing this Directly in a holistic experience !?! Thanks again Delma for Your Support & Guidance !!! I'll get back to You with His Reply as soon as I can !!! Much Love Stafford """""""""

Hi David I wanted to include You in Our conversation & I'm sure You've read they want You Too Explain when & where You went from intellectual understanding to a holistic experience of Seeing This ??? Thanks for Your Patience my Friend & Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[DavidB]

Hi Stafford (and Delma?)

Thanks for including me in your conversation and there is no need to thank me for my patience as this ‘stuff’ is not to be taken lightly or to be hurried……. I am in no hurry to pass or not to pass through a gate that isn’t really there ……. In fact ‘I’ realise ‘I’ can’t go anywhere because ‘I’ is just an idea.
I have had a couple of specific emotional responses to the process; the first when I mentioned that I had started to cry when I realised that ‘I was seeing out of nowhere’ (at least that’s sort of what I remember saying). It was an experience of visually looking at the outside countryside as I went through it and realising that what was in fact ‘seeing it’ was ‘empty space’…………. It was a realisation that my eye consciousness was reporting visually to my brain, but that ‘my brain’ wasn’t me or mine…that there was no ‘me’ in it…. In effect there was a sense of seeing without there being a personal ‘see-er’. I just cried and couldn’t stop for bloody ages……… There wasn’t a real ‘self’ seeing all of this…… Impossible to comprehend…. And what comprehends it!?! What useless words can be used to describe this????? (Also, whatever gave me the idea that there was a ‘self’ in the first place!?!)
I had another very similar experience a little while later when I started crying purely because ‘I could see’……. This was more of a response to the act of recognising having visual consciousness. It just hit me that ‘there was seeing’ …. Or that the act of ‘seeing’ was happening and that it was totally amazing.
I guess I also wish to share something a little strange with you that I am also noticing, as it may or may not be relevant, although it is possibly a bit embarrassing……… My emotional response to all of this is actually happening ‘now’ as I type this. It appears that in the act of communication around this whole area, that my emotions get really activated. It’s not that I am crying as I type, but my heart and throat centres are really engaged and activated (for want of better terminology). I somehow feel that I am highly sensitized as I communicate with Stafford, despite not knowing him. I think it’s more the nature of the subject matter than Stafford himself (no offence meant Stafford!). Intellectually, it seems a bit ridiculous as ‘LU’ is an ‘online experience’….. How the hell can I be engaging so emotionally? I don’t really understand this reaction, but maybe it’s because at a very deep level there is a realisation that this is about what is so real / so relevant / reality …… the truth of ‘no-I’ which may sound nihilistic, feels such a beautiful insight / experience (…….Strange?)
But there is a flipside, which is that when I am not in regular communication, I have felt that I have ‘fallen out of the awareness’ and lost clarity. Looking back on it, I think this is why I took so long answering the questions, as I think I sensed that while I was engaged in the communication, I was kept in that awareness through having to focus and work with it…… That’s kind of like a confession! Of course intellectually I know ‘I’ can’t fall out of awareness………… but in communicating and feeding back it feels / has felt that my attention has been brought back to ‘awareness’ rather than to the other myriad trivialities of day to day existence.
My confession is over, I am a charlatan, but one without a self……
No words or any sounds coming out of the mouth will ever make sense of this…….
With love,
Dave X

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford (and Delma?)

Thanks for including me in your conversation and there is no need to thank me for my patience as this ‘stuff’ is not to be taken lightly or to be hurried……. I am in no hurry to pass or not to pass through a gate that isn’t really there ……. In fact ‘I’ realise ‘I’ can’t go anywhere because ‘I’ is just an idea.
I have had a couple of specific emotional responses to the process; the first when I mentioned that I had started to cry when I realised that ‘I was seeing out of nowhere’ (at least that’s sort of what I remember saying). It was an experience of visually looking at the outside countryside as I went through it and realising that what was in fact ‘seeing it’ was ‘empty space’…………. It was a realisation that my eye consciousness was reporting visually to my brain, but that ‘my brain’ wasn’t me or mine…that there was no ‘me’ in it…. In effect there was a sense of seeing without there being a personal ‘see-er’. I just cried and couldn’t stop for bloody ages……… There wasn’t a real ‘self’ seeing all of this…… Impossible to comprehend…. And what comprehends it!?! What useless words can be used to describe this????? (Also, whatever gave me the idea that there was a ‘self’ in the first place!?!)
I had another very similar experience a little while later when I started crying purely because ‘I could see’……. This was more of a response to the act of recognising having visual consciousness. It just hit me that ‘there was seeing’ …. Or that the act of ‘seeing’ was happening and that it was totally amazing.
I guess I also wish to share something a little strange with you that I am also noticing, as it may or may not be relevant, although it is possibly a bit embarrassing……… My emotional response to all of this is actually happening ‘now’ as I type this. It appears that in the act of communication around this whole area, that my emotions get really activated. It’s not that I am crying as I type, but my heart and throat centres are really engaged and activated (for want of better terminology). I somehow feel that I am highly sensitized as I communicate with Stafford, despite not knowing him. I think it’s more the nature of the subject matter than Stafford himself (no offence meant Stafford!). Intellectually, it seems a bit ridiculous as ‘LU’ is an ‘online experience’….. How the hell can I be engaging so emotionally? I don’t really understand this reaction, but maybe it’s because at a very deep level there is a realisation that this is about what is so real / so relevant / reality …… the truth of ‘no-I’ which may sound nihilistic, feels such a beautiful insight / experience (…….Strange?)
But there is a flipside, which is that when I am not in regular communication, I have felt that I have ‘fallen out of the awareness’ and lost clarity. Looking back on it, I think this is why I took so long answering the questions, as I think I sensed that while I was engaged in the communication, I was kept in that awareness through having to focus and work with it…… That’s kind of like a confession! Of course intellectually I know ‘I’ can’t fall out of awareness………… but in communicating and feeding back it feels / has felt that my attention has been brought back to ‘awareness’ rather than to the other myriad trivialities of day to day existence.
My confession is over, I am a charlatan, but one without a self……
No words or any sounds coming out of the mouth will ever make sense of this…….
With love,
Dave X

Hi David, OK the more we communicate more is revealed !?! You Totally have had a deep Emotional & Perceptual Shift no doubt, however I feel there is a subtle personal I playing out !?! For instance when You Say

""""""""That’s kind of like a confession! Of course intellectually I know ‘I’ can’t fall out of awareness………… but in communicating and feeding back it feels / has felt that my attention has been brought back to ‘awareness’ rather than to the other myriad trivialities of day to day existence"""""'""

My Dear Friend, how can i know anything intellectually & is there a Separation between I attention & awareness or are they all the same without an identify or controller ?!? OK so take a look a This & let me know What's Seen Separate Sending Much Love Yours Truly Stafford

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[StaffordJR]

Hi David X, I wanted to share this exercise & send You Loving Support & everything IS Happening as IT should. Things are going Great ¡ ! ¡ Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[StaffordJR]

Hi David X, I wanted to share this exercise & send You Loving Support & everything IS Happening as IT should. Things are going Great ¡ ! ¡ Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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