Recognition of oneness?

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EvenFlow
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Re: Recognition of oneness?

Postby EvenFlow » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:08 am

Hi Nic - hope all is well!
Sit quietly, take in a few deep breaths and then close your eyes.

Locate where you feel yourself to be. Locate yourself vertically in the body, horizontally to the left or right, and depth, how far in. Feel how big you are, where you reside. Then point with a finger to ‘you’. Open your eyes, where is your finger pointing?
No "self" was found.

On a different note, understanding feels complete - the seeking is not here anymore. Things are as they are, and cannot be any different. There is no self that is doing anything. Everything just unfolds as it does. Life just happens, and it's not personal. Thank you for all of your guidance!

- Andy

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Re: Recognition of oneness?

Postby Skygazer74 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:03 pm

Hi Andy,

That sounds wonderful! You’re very welcome. How does it feel?

Best wishes,

Nic

PS if you want to complete the process there are some closing questions and other guides approve this process. This means you can access various resources and forums for aftercare.

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Re: Recognition of oneness?

Postby EvenFlow » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:47 am

Hi Nic!
That sounds wonderful! You’re very welcome. How does it feel?
Life is beautiful - the smiling still hasn't stopped :)
PS if you want to complete the process there are some closing questions and other guides approve this process. This means you can access various resources and forums for aftercare.
Sure - this sounds nice.

Thanks again for everything!

- Andy

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Re: Recognition of oneness?

Postby Skygazer74 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:39 am

Hi Andy,

I hope things are continuing to unfold beautifully and that the smiling is still arising! Do you feel that there is anything else to investigate after a few days?

If not, then here are the questions which I will pass on to the other guides so that they can approve this guiding:

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?

Best wishes,

Nic

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Re: Recognition of oneness?

Postby EvenFlow » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:56 pm

Hello Nic!
I hope things are continuing to unfold beautifully and that the smiling is still arising! Do you feel that there is anything else to investigate after a few days?
No, there is nothing left to investigate - the smiling continues :)
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
There is no separate self, and there never was.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
The illusion of the separate self is a collection of thoughts and sensations that was thought of as "me". This "me" would take responsibility (in the form of a thought) for the actions and sensations that happen. It started as a child and was reinforced as different experiences were attributed to "me". It is now recognized as a thought that arises in the now. Independent thoughts can seem to have a continuity, creating the appearance of a story, but through direct experience these are seen through as simply thoughts arising in the now. The notion of "I" is useful in everyday life, but the understanding is there that there is no separation between "I" and life as it unfolds in the eternal present moment.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
There is a deepening of the peace that was already present. No separate self means no personal doer-ship. There is no "mini-me" sitting in my head that is controlling things. Life just unfolds as it does, and the experiences happen as they happen. Authentic actions arise as the thinking has slowed down.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
There was nothing in particular - no big "aha" moment. This process was started with a mostly quiet mind, with a knowing of living in the now. Through the explorations of direct experience, the notion of a separate self was seen through. Discoveries during this process include no boundaries in any direct experience and the total absence of any personal doer-ship, despite thoughts that arise claiming to be responsible for the doing.
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
Decision, intention, free will, choice, and control are all a part of the illusion of the separate self. These are all thoughts that arise, the content of which claims control or doer-ship of the happenings of life. However, similar to breathing or digesting food, thoughts just arise, and actions just happen, without any control (even if the content of a thought claims "control"). Experiencing happening in the now is all there is, and there is no separation between the experiencing and life. An example is playing with my children at the park. Actions happen, thoughts can arise about joy or happiness. Sensations arise that could be labeled as love. Everything just happens.
6) Anything to add?
There is nothing that could be added to this moment to make it any better :)

With love,

Andy


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